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U-Joint Needed for Hydraulic Pump on 9U-D6

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rogerjmartin
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I look forward to checking the posts on this site and reading all the good technical information and reading about everyone's experiences moving equipment.

Recently I drug home a D6: serial # 9U17073 with engine number 9U17978. I was cleaning it up and changing fluids, and the engine oil pressure was running low. I found a mouse nest, grass & leaves sucked up in the oil pump screen. Now, it's got good oil pressure. While I had the belly pan off, I found the double U-joint on the shaft that runs the hydraulic pump is worn out. It's not available through Cat. I need the U-joints, and possibly the yokes (they're warn but useable).

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thanks for your help.

Roger Martin, Southwest Ohio
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Sat, Dec 26, 2015 6:56 AM
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If you find someone who knows what they are doing at Napa. They can match it up for you.
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Sat, Dec 26, 2015 7:57 AM
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If you find someone who knows what they are doing at Napa. They can match it up for you.
U-joint is an old number UJ934....look up the cross over numbers.
Yoke 5F8501 is an old "Blood Bros #3NF5". Neither the company or the yokes seem to exist any more.
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Sat, Dec 26, 2015 8:19 AM
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U-joint is an old number UJ934....look up the cross over numbers.
Yoke 5F8501 is an old "Blood Bros #3NF5". Neither the company or the yokes seem to exist any more.
Thanks "Old Magnet" for your reply. I went back to my machine and looked at it real close, and then I looked in the No. 46 Hydraulic Control Parts Catalog. On page 58, it shows the 5F859 Mounting Group with two U-Joint numbers: #5F1083 and #6F4339. On page 72, it shows the breakdown of #5F1083. My parts book doesn't show #UJ934. My book does have the same yoke number you have. My "center" is warn from the outside of the yoke hitting the outside of the "center". I can use them, but it would be nice to have a new ones. The "center" is #5F8500 in my book. Where do I find cross-over part numbers? Do you have any idea where I can find any of these parts or does anybody on here have any new or good used ones? Roger Martin (937-477-5270)
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Sun, Dec 27, 2015 4:39 AM
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Thanks "Old Magnet" for your reply. I went back to my machine and looked at it real close, and then I looked in the No. 46 Hydraulic Control Parts Catalog. On page 58, it shows the 5F859 Mounting Group with two U-Joint numbers: #5F1083 and #6F4339. On page 72, it shows the breakdown of #5F1083. My parts book doesn't show #UJ934. My book does have the same yoke number you have. My "center" is warn from the outside of the yoke hitting the outside of the "center". I can use them, but it would be nice to have a new ones. The "center" is #5F8500 in my book. Where do I find cross-over part numbers? Do you have any idea where I can find any of these parts or does anybody on here have any new or good used ones? Roger Martin (937-477-5270)
5F1083 crosses to Napa u-joint 934
6F4339 also crosses to Napa u-joint 934

And for 5F0859 check this link http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/partssearch.aspx?PartNum=5F0859+&btnPartSearch=Search&PST=Starts
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Sun, Dec 27, 2015 4:59 AM
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5F1083 crosses to Napa u-joint 934
6F4339 also crosses to Napa u-joint 934

And for 5F0859 check this link http://www.machinerytrader.com/list/partssearch.aspx?PartNum=5F0859+&btnPartSearch=Search&PST=Starts
As you've probably figured out by now the UJ934 is an aftermarket designation for the u-joint cross assembly where Cat lists individual pieces for cup, cross, seal, lube fitting etc.
Just google the UJ934 number for interchange options.
The rest looks like the best you can hope for is good used.
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Sun, Dec 27, 2015 7:45 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
As you've probably figured out by now the UJ934 is an aftermarket designation for the u-joint cross assembly where Cat lists individual pieces for cup, cross, seal, lube fitting etc.
Just google the UJ934 number for interchange options.
The rest looks like the best you can hope for is good used.
I have the coupling 5f1120 and the joint ass.in good condition and dimention total is 9 inchs
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Sun, Dec 27, 2015 11:32 PM
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I have the coupling 5f1120 and the joint ass.in good condition and dimention total is 9 inchs
The 6F4339 joint assy. equals a 5F1083 assy.
These were manufactured by Blood Brothers Machine Co., predecessor to
Rockwell International as part #10220.

I can not find where an 5F1120 assy. is an interchange.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2015 12:58 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
The 6F4339 joint assy. equals a 5F1083 assy.
These were manufactured by Blood Brothers Machine Co., predecessor to
Rockwell International as part #10220.

I can not find where an 5F1120 assy. is an interchange.
NPR shows both assemblies(6F4339 and 5F1120) to have been used in the same applications, both pipelayers. A 16A(583) from SN 1-300 and a 21A(572) from SN 1-331.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2015 1:55 AM
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NPR shows both assemblies(6F4339 and 5F1120) to have been used in the same applications, both pipelayers. A 16A(583) from SN 1-300 and a 21A(572) from SN 1-331.
The 5f1120 coupling and joint ass are from 5f859 mounting group
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Mon, Dec 28, 2015 2:19 AM
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The 5f1120 coupling and joint ass are from 5f859 mounting group
if this unit is like the D7 coupler, it is a tricky unit to reassemble because of the short length and awkward flange to UJ cross piece arrangement.

Quickest way to disassemble was to cut the cross piece thru which enabled the cups to be pressed out.

Equivalent parts are easy to find - cost me around 80 Aussies for the UJs but took 3 hours to rebuild and even then one UJ is a bit tighter than I would like.

Because of the design the cross piece won't travel laterally enough to allow the cups to drop out, so once it's assembled that's it and if you displace a needle inside a cup, you're stuffed.

A good second hand one is the better way to go or take it to a shop for the rebuild.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2015 2:34 AM
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