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i know i seen cat's hook up to a weight sled before and the make some great videos but has there ever been a organized pull set up? the videos that i seen the cat usually just wakes down the track with not much problem. with are cat's bean able to pull so much i know you would need a really big sled. this come about after having a conversation with some friends about an operator and a "operator" if the driver input would or could make the difference when going down the track i know it not as fast and noise as some pulls but i ok with that. just a idea if one owner could get his d2 to out pull another d2 not sure how big of a rig you need for the bigger cats like 7-9 but i sure it would be a good show.
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Sat, Jun 11, 2016 10:49 PM
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All else being equal I think the heavier machine with the best tracks would win as long as it has enough power in low gear. The sleds they use around here now have there own motor so the weight moves forward by measured time instead of by wheel travel. Speed wins. The one for the 1,500 HP and up modified semi trucks have big 4 big curved hydraulic rippers that dig in once the weight is all the way forward. Stops them quick from 40 MPH when them rippers go down. I watched steamers pull at Rollag a few years ago. Actually quite boring when it took 3 minutes for a full pull and every one had a full pull. Maybe a bigger sled was needed, or maybe that would result in machine damage? It may be fun just to see what they could pull.
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Sat, Jun 11, 2016 11:40 PM
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Cats are crawler tractors, Track Type Tractors. Even when fitted with a blade attachment they are stilled called a track type tractor with a bulldozer blade. Gets me every time the news media calls an excavator a backhoe, where is the hoe in the back of an excavator???? or a wheel loader or backhoe called a bulldozer.:doh:
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Sat, Jun 11, 2016 11:50 PM
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Cats are crawler tractors, Track Type Tractors. Even when fitted with a blade attachment they are stilled called a track type tractor with a bulldozer blade. Gets me every time the news media calls an excavator a backhoe, where is the hoe in the back of an excavator???? or a wheel loader or backhoe called a bulldozer.:doh:
I know some pulls are just plain boring when you know what the factors are, weight, traction and horse power.
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Sat, Jun 11, 2016 11:54 PM
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I know some pulls are just plain boring when you know what the factors are, weight, traction and horse power.
To me pulls are nothing more than a "mine's bigger" thing. About as exciting as watching paint dry. But then I played on tanks all those years, something that would have made a full pull every time while blowing stuff up! Guess I'm kinda jaded.

Rick
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Sun, Jun 12, 2016 1:40 AM
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To me pulls are nothing more than a "mine's bigger" thing. About as exciting as watching paint dry. But then I played on tanks all those years, something that would have made a full pull every time while blowing stuff up! Guess I'm kinda jaded.

Rick
[quote="oldtanker"]To me pulls are nothing more than a "mine's bigger" thing. About as exciting as watching paint dry. But then I played on tanks all those years, something that would have made a full pull every time while blowing stuff up! Guess I'm kinda jaded.

Rick[/quote]

Now that would be fun. Maybe use old Internationals for targets. Just kidding Rick, I know you like red, not seeing red.
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Sun, Jun 12, 2016 4:48 AM
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[quote="oldtanker"]To me pulls are nothing more than a "mine's bigger" thing. About as exciting as watching paint dry. But then I played on tanks all those years, something that would have made a full pull every time while blowing stuff up! Guess I'm kinda jaded.

Rick[/quote]

Now that would be fun. Maybe use old Internationals for targets. Just kidding Rick, I know you like red, not seeing red.
Vintage tractor pulling has turned into anything goes tractor pulling down under! It all started out low key but the mines bigger than yours has got in the way. Tractors with low rated truck engines fitted "71 GMs" manly, are now seen running higher than truck outputs. Single cylinder fowler crawlers have had blowers fitted under the bonnet, T40 six cylinder International engines have been bored and the rpm increased by more than 1000 rpm and all these changes look to be standard to most peopl! I think most of the cheats are just driven by win at all costs. Most of the great motor race events start with 2 people that wanted to prove that they had the fastest car and have grown into world wide events.
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Sun, Jun 12, 2016 5:41 AM
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Vintage tractor pulling has turned into anything goes tractor pulling down under! It all started out low key but the mines bigger than yours has got in the way. Tractors with low rated truck engines fitted "71 GMs" manly, are now seen running higher than truck outputs. Single cylinder fowler crawlers have had blowers fitted under the bonnet, T40 six cylinder International engines have been bored and the rpm increased by more than 1000 rpm and all these changes look to be standard to most peopl! I think most of the cheats are just driven by win at all costs. Most of the great motor race events start with 2 people that wanted to prove that they had the fastest car and have grown into world wide events.
I pulled my TD6 at the local club's pull for about 10 years. This is a totally stock, antique pull, limited to 5 MPH, RPM must be within 10% of stock. the TD6 w/ Isaacson dozer will not quite pull as much as the 830 JD's & a super 99 Oliver, which usually got full pulls with the same weight on the sled...I could pull close to the 720's & 730's. Our sled is calibrated to show percentage of the tractor's own weight pulled, the TD6 usually pulled about 120%. I was usually the only crawler there, one year there was a D2, no dozer, & he pulled about the same percentage-wise as the TD6, as I remember...I always ran out of power way before running out of traction.
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Sun, Jun 12, 2016 9:24 AM
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I pulled my TD6 at the local club's pull for about 10 years. This is a totally stock, antique pull, limited to 5 MPH, RPM must be within 10% of stock. the TD6 w/ Isaacson dozer will not quite pull as much as the 830 JD's & a super 99 Oliver, which usually got full pulls with the same weight on the sled...I could pull close to the 720's & 730's. Our sled is calibrated to show percentage of the tractor's own weight pulled, the TD6 usually pulled about 120%. I was usually the only crawler there, one year there was a D2, no dozer, & he pulled about the same percentage-wise as the TD6, as I remember...I always ran out of power way before running out of traction.
thanks for the input i guess i like too see a cat work a little for it's lunch but i do get what you where saying about mine bigger than yours. Ronm i like the idea of give a % of pulled vs weight that way you know how your doing.
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Sun, Jun 12, 2016 8:49 PM
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thanks for the input i guess i like too see a cat work a little for it's lunch but i do get what you where saying about mine bigger than yours. Ronm i like the idea of give a % of pulled vs weight that way you know how your doing.
Sum do it jest cus they love to feel the horse power an lots of it .its jest like more an more cats can u ever get enuf
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Tue, Jun 14, 2016 11:19 AM
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