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BigAgCat
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I have a few missing track shoe nuts and bolts and one track shoe that is pretty loose. That one shoe is held on by only two bolts and I think the fact that the nuts are basically rusted to the bolts keeps them from coming off.

Anyways, I decided I would just grab a couple 5/8 bolts and nuts from the hardware store to use in the shoes that are missing bolts. They seemed to fit just fine and tighten right up. But after running my tractor, I checked them out and the bolts were loosened up.

I did a forum search for the proper track shoe bolts and the part numbers for the nuts and bolts and managed to find them. However, my search also suggested I may be SOL as far as keeping the track shoe tight to the track chain due to the bolt hole being worn. So I am not sure it would really be worth getting the "official" track shoe nuts and bolts just to find out the track shoe is going to continue to be loose. Then again, the two bolt holes that have been missing bolts may not be worn like the bolt holes that have the bolts. So the "official" bolts may actually hold the shoe in place...

Anyways, it really is just one shoe that is loose, but it probably won't come off. Doesn't seem like a huge problem that it is loose either.

I thought about buying nuts and bolts from Caterpillar, but I am not sure I want to spend $100+ on a bulk set of nuts and bolts on the chance that it will be virtually impossible to keep the track shoe tight. I also do not care to spend a premium on buying nuts and bolts in the singles.

Though, I wonder about tightening the original bolts that are on the loose track shoe. I am sort of concerned that maybe the rust is the only thing keeping the nuts from coming off completely on the loose shoe.

I was thinking about double nutting the bolts to see if that would work...

Any opinions or ideas/thoughts on re-tightening loose track shoes?
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:14 AM
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I got some ITR branded ones for the D9 $6.50AUD for the bolts and $3 for the nuts. I did them up to the tourqe spec in the book, can't recall the number but i had a 6ft pipe on the breaker bar and it took a bit of effort
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 4:57 AM
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I got some ITR branded ones for the D9 $6.50AUD for the bolts and $3 for the nuts. I did them up to the tourqe spec in the book, can't recall the number but i had a 6ft pipe on the breaker bar and it took a bit of effort
Use some fine thread grade 8 bolts and flat washers/ Teflon lock nuts.
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 7:02 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
Use some fine thread grade 8 bolts and flat washers/ Teflon lock nuts.
Hi Team,
yes, worn bolts and holes will allow track plates to re-loosen, BUT by removing the plates from the chains and cleaning the mating surfaces to shiny bright metal finishes will allow friction to help keep the plates from moving again.
Rust and dirt on the clamping faces will allow easy movement--picture a poor lubricant.

We always removed the paint from new track chain and track plate mounting faces to prevent loosening on new track components.
Paint, dirt, rust, mill scale, etc. between such hard working clamped metal faces will almost be guaranteed to come loose--especially if working in rock.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 9:49 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Team,
yes, worn bolts and holes will allow track plates to re-loosen, BUT by removing the plates from the chains and cleaning the mating surfaces to shiny bright metal finishes will allow friction to help keep the plates from moving again.
Rust and dirt on the clamping faces will allow easy movement--picture a poor lubricant.

We always removed the paint from new track chain and track plate mounting faces to prevent loosening on new track components.
Paint, dirt, rust, mill scale, etc. between such hard working clamped metal faces will almost be guaranteed to come loose--especially if working in rock.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
U can use the crappy bolts but sounds like you are going to have to weld in place now .
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 8:41 PM
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U can use the crappy bolts but sounds like you are going to have to weld in place now .
get at least grade 8 bolts and torque to around 250 ft lbs---and as edy said clean the surfaces real good
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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 10:32 PM
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get at least grade 8 bolts and torque to around 250 ft lbs---and as edy said clean the surfaces real good
Maybe I'll try to tighten them up quite a bit more than I had done. Sounds like I could just not have tightened them enough for them to really hold.
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Mon, Mar 16, 2020 12:27 AM
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Maybe I'll try to tighten them up quite a bit more than I had done. Sounds like I could just not have tightened them enough for them to really hold.
If the growers are worn down they tend to loosen the bolts
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Mon, Mar 16, 2020 12:33 AM
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If the growers are worn down they tend to loosen the bolts
Unless I mis-read, you did not tighten the two rusted ones?
Takes all four to hold the pad on!
Double nut or do as Rome suggested. 👍
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Tue, Mar 17, 2020 9:20 PM
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Unless I mis-read, you did not tighten the two rusted ones?
Takes all four to hold the pad on!
Double nut or do as Rome suggested. 👍
[quote="drujinin"]Unless I mis-read, you did not tighten the two rusted ones?
Takes all four to hold the pad on!
Double nut or do as Rome suggested. 👍[/quote]

Hey, I have a pad or maybe a few that only have 3 bolts and they stay fine. 😛

Technically, according to geometry or maybe physics too, only 3 bolts are necessary.

It'll be quite a task tightening the rusted ones, I think. I once tried to loosen a track bolt and it just laughed at me.
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Wed, Mar 18, 2020 3:12 AM
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[quote="drujinin"]Unless I mis-read, you did not tighten the two rusted ones?
Takes all four to hold the pad on!
Double nut or do as Rome suggested. 👍[/quote]

Hey, I have a pad or maybe a few that only have 3 bolts and they stay fine. 😛

Technically, according to geometry or maybe physics too, only 3 bolts are necessary.

It'll be quite a task tightening the rusted ones, I think. I once tried to loosen a track bolt and it just laughed at me.
[quote="BigAgCat"]Hey, I have a pad or maybe a few that only have 3 bolts and they stay fine. 😛

Technically, according to geometry or maybe physics too, only 3 bolts are necessary.

It'll be quite a task tightening the rusted ones, I think. I once tried to loosen a track bolt and it just laughed at me.[/quote]


-why would you disturb a bolt that is/seems tight and is holding a shoe tight?:decision:

-why would you not add a bolt to a shoe when it is missing? aren't they designed to have 4 bolts clamping the shoe to the link?:jaw:
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Wed, Mar 18, 2020 5:55 AM
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