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Track chain wear on D6C

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I have been asked to diagnose some rapid track chain wear on a D6C 10K, I have worked on this tractor a little in the past, it is in overall very good shape, gets little use, and got a clean bill of health by Peterson Cat when it was purchased just a couple years ago, who declared all components to be in good condition.
This wear apparently came on all of a sudden and is just on one side, any input ?
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 12:54 AM
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Find the piece the chain is rubbing on and send us a pic of that too.
Later Bob
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 2:16 AM
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Find the piece the chain is rubbing on and send us a pic of that too.
Later Bob
I'd suspect front idler alignment is jambing the rails against the bottom rollers.
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 2:35 AM
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I'd suspect front idler alignment is jambing the rails against the bottom rollers.
Roller(s) locked up & sliding...
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 3:30 AM
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OUCH! That's nasty.

Like bob says, there's something else that is polished/worn similarly. That type wear is typical of a track roller that is severely worn. So if it came on all of a sudden, probably one or more have seized and the rails have cut a groove into the rollers until the flanges started cutting into the pin bosses. I could see how it might happen fairly quickly.

While it looks awful, I believe if you get the rollers replaced, you still have quite a bit of height left on the rails. The wear was concentrated on a small area of the offending parts, but spread across the whole chain, so not as severe there. Might be impossible to rotate pins and bushings because of the beating the pin bosses have received.
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 5:27 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
OUCH! That's nasty.

Like bob says, there's something else that is polished/worn similarly. That type wear is typical of a track roller that is severely worn. So if it came on all of a sudden, probably one or more have seized and the rails have cut a groove into the rollers until the flanges started cutting into the pin bosses. I could see how it might happen fairly quickly.

While it looks awful, I believe if you get the rollers replaced, you still have quite a bit of height left on the rails. The wear was concentrated on a small area of the offending parts, but spread across the whole chain, so not as severe there. Might be impossible to rotate pins and bushings because of the beating the pin bosses have received.
Looks like a bent guide guard on the front or rear of track frame.
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 7:56 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
Looks like a bent guide guard on the front or rear of track frame.
Hey Josh,

I see your in Peterson Country, me too. If it turns out to be the bottom rollers, PM me as I might be able to help -glen
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 8:50 AM
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Hey Josh,

I see your in Peterson Country, me too. If it turns out to be the bottom rollers, PM me as I might be able to help -glen
check out the bottom rollers first, I reckon you have one seized, should be easy to find with flats worn on the flange.
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Sun, Jan 5, 2014 11:15 PM
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check out the bottom rollers first, I reckon you have one seized, should be easy to find with flats worn on the flange.
I went out and looked at the D6 today, and found that the guide components on the idler yoke assembly considerably worn, along with a missing plate under the springs in the yoke. This combination is apparently allowing the idler to tilt enough to push the rails into the front guide guard under certain conditions, I can feel the wear on the guide , but no room to take a picture of that, everything else looks good. With the front end lifted, I used a pry bar to wiggle the idler assembly, and the whole assembly flops around.
Thanks for the help so far.
Josh
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Tue, Jan 7, 2014 3:54 AM
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I went out and looked at the D6 today, and found that the guide components on the idler yoke assembly considerably worn, along with a missing plate under the springs in the yoke. This combination is apparently allowing the idler to tilt enough to push the rails into the front guide guard under certain conditions, I can feel the wear on the guide , but no room to take a picture of that, everything else looks good. With the front end lifted, I used a pry bar to wiggle the idler assembly, and the whole assembly flops around.
Thanks for the help so far.
Josh
Assuming you don't mean the idler flopped around on the shaft a reshimming should fix things up.
Later Bob
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Tue, Jan 7, 2014 8:20 AM
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Assuming you don't mean the idler flopped around on the shaft a reshimming should fix things up.
Later Bob
Bob, can you give me brief description of the shimming you refer to ? and I assume this is a remove the idler job?
Other than the missing plate, 7M1845 under the springs 4F5004, the plates 7M1776 are well worn and beat out, and there no shims behind them, the inside the frame portion of the collar where the strip 7M1850 should be, is also pretty beat out, with the whole thing having about 1/2" of play at the frame, allowing much more at the track. The shaft bearings do seem to be OK.

Josh
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Tue, Jan 7, 2014 9:33 AM
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