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brialin
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I have to turn the tracks around on my D6C. It has salt tracks. Should I get new bolts or use the old ones again on the master link. I do not know the brand of tracks. I was just going to buy grade 9 bolts if I should replace them. Do I just tighten with a 3/4 impact wrench? The same bolts were used when the previous owner took them apart to have the pins and bushings turned.

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Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:56 PM
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brain, I just had the pins and bushings turned on my D8 and they only replaced the bolts that were worn around the heads. If your bolt heads don't round when taking them off they should be OK to re-use. Make sure you use a 6 point socket and not a 12 point with your 3/4 gun. The 12 will round a worn head real quick 😮 .
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Thu, Apr 23, 2009 10:05 PM
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brain, I just had the pins and bushings turned on my D8 and they only replaced the bolts that were worn around the heads. If your bolt heads don't round when taking them off they should be OK to re-use. Make sure you use a 6 point socket and not a 12 point with your 3/4 gun. The 12 will round a worn head real quick 😮 .
What do you mean by 'turn the tracks round' , you only turn bushes on SALT tracks because there is no internal wear, providing the seals have done their job, you say they are already turned?.
If you put new master bolts in, get the correct ones, get the proper tightening procedure and do it correctly, you will want to kick yourself round the field if they come loose and damage the joiner links.
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Fri, Apr 24, 2009 5:02 AM
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What do you mean by 'turn the tracks round' , you only turn bushes on SALT tracks because there is no internal wear, providing the seals have done their job, you say they are already turned?.
If you put new master bolts in, get the correct ones, get the proper tightening procedure and do it correctly, you will want to kick yourself round the field if they come loose and damage the joiner links.
When the tracks were put back on after he had the pins and bushings turned the previous owner put the tracks on backwards. I have to take them off and put them on in the right direction.
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Fri, Apr 24, 2009 7:03 PM
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When the tracks were put back on after he had the pins and bushings turned the previous owner put the tracks on backwards. I have to take them off and put them on in the right direction.
Just wire brush the bolts and use lots of neverseize on them. Torque them to 220 Lb Ft and then turn them 120 deg(2 flats)more. Track bolts are special bolts.
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Fri, Apr 24, 2009 9:28 PM
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Just wire brush the bolts and use lots of neverseize on them. Torque them to 220 Lb Ft and then turn them 120 deg(2 flats)more. Track bolts are special bolts.
Later Bob
That figures! The correct torque for master pad bolts on a D6C/D is as Bob says, clean and lubricate well, tighten to 220 lbs/ft plus 180 deg, in the current service manual, but I guess anything over 120deg should be enough on used bolts.
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Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM
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That figures! The correct torque for master pad bolts on a D6C/D is as Bob says, clean and lubricate well, tighten to 220 lbs/ft plus 180 deg, in the current service manual, but I guess anything over 120deg should be enough on used bolts.
Catsilver, I think the 180 deg is for the rest of the shoe bolts.
Later Bob
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Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19 PM
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Catsilver, I think the 180 deg is for the rest of the shoe bolts.
Later Bob
which ever method you use to tighten the bolts ,when you think there tight give the Head of the bolt a good hard crack with a 5 pounder then re-tighten
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Wed, Apr 29, 2009 12:59 AM
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which ever method you use to tighten the bolts ,when you think there tight give the Head of the bolt a good hard crack with a 5 pounder then re-tighten
some of the split link track bolts are special shouldered bolts - compare before you decide to replace
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Wed, Apr 29, 2009 1:03 AM
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Reply to OneWelder:
some of the split link track bolts are special shouldered bolts - compare before you decide to replace
The important part of alligator master link re-connection, is to ensure that the link jaws are spotlessly clean before bolting them up.
It's important to remove any paint by burning with a torch .. then wire-brushing, to ensure that you have bare metal-to-bare metal contact.
Paint and dirt will crush in operation, making the fasteners on the coupling lose full tension, and allowing the possibility of the master link coming loose.
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Wed, Apr 29, 2009 8:47 AM
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The important part of alligator master link re-connection, is to ensure that the link jaws are spotlessly clean before bolting them up.
It's important to remove any paint by burning with a torch .. then wire-brushing, to ensure that you have bare metal-to-bare metal contact.
Paint and dirt will crush in operation, making the fasteners on the coupling lose full tension, and allowing the possibility of the master link coming loose.
Hi chaps, for peace of mind and no aggravation we allways use new bolts and torque and tighten using the correct procedure. Brialin as i guess you didn't pay for the track job i would splash out on eight new bolts. Not sure if i would bash em with a hammer tho !! As the others say, clean the links and threads well and use plenty of antisieze or cooper grease.
Regards Gordon.
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