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Storing with main clutch engaged or disengaged

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seyser
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Do you guys store machines with the main cluth engaged or disengaged? I have always left my machines with the main engaged. The other day I was bumming around in the shed and hopped up on the D7 and noticed the clutch was stuck from what I guessed was condensation and the below freezing weather. I did finally bump it loose with moderate force but it got me to thinking about the proper way to store these?

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Thu, Feb 27, 2020 3:38 AM
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Yes, store them disengaged.
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Thu, Feb 27, 2020 3:42 AM
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Yes, store them disengaged.
Some guys Tie the steering clutch handles back leaving them disengaged also.

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Thu, Feb 27, 2020 5:06 AM
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Some guys Tie the steering clutch handles back leaving them disengaged also.

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Engaged is what boss told me. catskinner
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:25 AM
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Engaged is what boss told me. catskinner
does it make a difference with oil bath....

-time sitting?
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:11 AM
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does it make a difference with oil bath....

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Hi , long ago in the army I had to do with D7's and D8's . We were taught to leave the clutch engaged . They told us this theory : these cluchtes are equipped with rubber blocs , and in the disengaged position the clutch might hang down and so deform a little bit . During all the years after , I never heard about this story . Is there anyone who can tell us more ? On the other hand , the army has told us more things about machines and earthmoving where I put many ?????
The Netherlandsd , Johan7
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 8:56 PM
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Reply to johan7:
Hi , long ago in the army I had to do with D7's and D8's . We were taught to leave the clutch engaged . They told us this theory : these cluchtes are equipped with rubber blocs , and in the disengaged position the clutch might hang down and so deform a little bit . During all the years after , I never heard about this story . Is there anyone who can tell us more ? On the other hand , the army has told us more things about machines and earthmoving where I put many ?????
The Netherlandsd , Johan7
What's the manual read?
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 8:58 PM
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What's the manual read?
I understood you engage it after starting and check to make sure its in neutral. Now oil clutches in cold weather before starting you want to disengage it and set the brake or it can possibly "walk", even out of gear.
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:42 PM
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I understood you engage it after starting and check to make sure its in neutral. Now oil clutches in cold weather before starting you want to disengage it and set the brake or it can possibly "walk", even out of gear.
I had beat into my head alway ALWAY engage the clutch. I cannot remember half the reasons given. But mainly based on safety and ware on the throw out bearing.


But the question at hand is a different issue. So any and all thoughts are worth considering.


But really comes down to use it or loose it kind of thing. I have had 2 failures from lack of use. And who knows how many more now that I have been blessed with a whole herd of running when parked but need a little love tractors.
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Sat, Feb 29, 2020 12:20 AM
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I had beat into my head alway ALWAY engage the clutch. I cannot remember half the reasons given. But mainly based on safety and ware on the throw out bearing.


But the question at hand is a different issue. So any and all thoughts are worth considering.


But really comes down to use it or loose it kind of thing. I have had 2 failures from lack of use. And who knows how many more now that I have been blessed with a whole herd of running when parked but need a little love tractors.
On our old D4 with manual clutch, leaving it engaged over the winter would often result in the plates lightly sticking together. Getting them unstuck could be a challenge. I would use the pony to try to turn the engine over while in gear with the clutch disengaged. I recall pulling the floorboard and trying to beat it with a hammer and 2X4 to break it loose. However, it doesn't take much sticking to be difficult to break loose. After that, I always leave the clutch disengaged during storage. On a manual clutch, I don't see how being disengaged would create any problems. at least on a D2 or D4 type machine.
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Sat, Feb 29, 2020 2:25 AM
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On our old D4 with manual clutch, leaving it engaged over the winter would often result in the plates lightly sticking together. Getting them unstuck could be a challenge. I would use the pony to try to turn the engine over while in gear with the clutch disengaged. I recall pulling the floorboard and trying to beat it with a hammer and 2X4 to break it loose. However, it doesn't take much sticking to be difficult to break loose. After that, I always leave the clutch disengaged during storage. On a manual clutch, I don't see how being disengaged would create any problems. at least on a D2 or D4 type machine.
The only thought that comes to my mind for steering clutches and tractors with foot clutches is keeping the springs in the disengaged for a long period of time - whether that would negatively affect the spring rate. According to the web : ), materials can acquire permanent deformation from creep as well other other factors like stretching past the elastic limit. Since the latter wouldn't be a problem here if the mechanism was designed appropriately, then the creep would be the thing to be concerned about, and whether keeping them stretched or compressed for six months would be enough to make a permanent change. Some researcher has probably studied this
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