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Julian
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These (touch wood) are working perfectly. The machine will only be started once in a while during the winter so is it a good idea to jam the levers back to stop the clutches seizing? I've never had them seize yet but after reading about these things I see that it's possible....

Maybe lengths of wood to the base of the dash, or a ratchet strap around the seat back? (hopefully not messing up the nice decals I just applied😞 )

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Sun, Dec 4, 2011 12:39 AM
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based on several factors;
Were the clutches in good condition when installed? oily, water wet, dry
Are the drain plugs installed so it is full of condensate/water in the compartments?
Is it parked on a dirt floor to promote poor air circulation to the open drains because you did indeed remove said drain plugs?
Are there large temperature/humidity swings where it is parked helping to promote condensation because you failed to remove the drain plugs?
Do the seals leak allowing oil to weep out of the gearbox into the clutch compartments to soak everything, thus preventing rust but creating slipping clutch which is an issue common on Gas CATs.
I know that one day the clutches will indeed stick on my D2 due to lack of winter exercise (fiber clutch on one side still, bronze clutch on other), but I do not like tying back the levers due to release bearings being put into compression along with the springs being put into compression.
DISCLAIMER! Modern Springs do not develop "Set" anymore due to Modern Advances in Technology!
(Yeah, Right!)

Most of the D4s I have seen or heard about do not seem to have Winter stuck clutches due to better design of the compartments over a D2. (My Opinion)

The D2 we used in the Pennsylvania Oil Patch was parked for up to 6 months at a time under a ragged tarp, minimal maintenance and the clutches never stuck. It was even parked for over 5 years while we used a different machine for Well Service. It was blocked up with the drain plugs out, well tarped in the woods where the sun didn't shine on it which probably helped with the temperature swings. When we went and got it, only the Magneto points needed filing to get it running. We serviced three Wells that Fall, then left it sitting on a Well location over the winter under a ragged tarp, a porcupine came along and ate all the rubber hoses off!
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Sun, Dec 4, 2011 7:41 PM
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Reply to drujinin:
based on several factors;
Were the clutches in good condition when installed? oily, water wet, dry
Are the drain plugs installed so it is full of condensate/water in the compartments?
Is it parked on a dirt floor to promote poor air circulation to the open drains because you did indeed remove said drain plugs?
Are there large temperature/humidity swings where it is parked helping to promote condensation because you failed to remove the drain plugs?
Do the seals leak allowing oil to weep out of the gearbox into the clutch compartments to soak everything, thus preventing rust but creating slipping clutch which is an issue common on Gas CATs.
I know that one day the clutches will indeed stick on my D2 due to lack of winter exercise (fiber clutch on one side still, bronze clutch on other), but I do not like tying back the levers due to release bearings being put into compression along with the springs being put into compression.
DISCLAIMER! Modern Springs do not develop "Set" anymore due to Modern Advances in Technology!
(Yeah, Right!)

Most of the D4s I have seen or heard about do not seem to have Winter stuck clutches due to better design of the compartments over a D2. (My Opinion)

The D2 we used in the Pennsylvania Oil Patch was parked for up to 6 months at a time under a ragged tarp, minimal maintenance and the clutches never stuck. It was even parked for over 5 years while we used a different machine for Well Service. It was blocked up with the drain plugs out, well tarped in the woods where the sun didn't shine on it which probably helped with the temperature swings. When we went and got it, only the Magneto points needed filing to get it running. We serviced three Wells that Fall, then left it sitting on a Well location over the winter under a ragged tarp, a porcupine came along and ate all the rubber hoses off!
Jeff
Thanks Jeff for the informative reply!

When I got the D4 the wading plugs were fitted, it had stood out in the rain for years and the compartments had gallons of filthy brown water in them! It's all dried out now and doesn't seem to have taken any harm from that ordeal. Maybe the clutches won't stick easily, or if they do and I catch them before they've solidified proper then I'll be in the clear. Anyway, I'll take your advice and not tie back the levers and see how things go - at the moment it's under cover, but subject to condensation periodically due to the British climate!

Regards Julian.
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Tue, Dec 6, 2011 12:42 AM
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