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John from Fresno
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I am looking at doing some riveting suing solid round head mild steel rivets. I can buy rivets from McMasterCarr. I was looking for the tools to install the rivets and make the heads round. I would assume that these would fit the pneumatic air hammers. Does anyone know where I can get these tools for the round head rivets?

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Check e-bay. If you know any steam guys some of them have the tools you need. A friend of mine has quite a few tools he has bought over the years, on E-bay and Craig's List and private sources that he knew from the steam hobby.

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Check e-bay. If you know any steam guys some of them have the tools you need. A friend of mine has quite a few tools he has bought over the years, on E-bay and Craig's List and private sources that he knew from the steam hobby.

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Also, a lot of riveting hammers and accessories used un the aircraft industry, and truck industry. You will need a riveting hammer(similar to an air chisel,just more controllable) the bits for the air hammer, and a bucking bar for the back side of the rivet. Depending on the size and hardness of the rivets you are wanting you may also need a forge, as they are heated red hot, then installed and compressed.
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Also, a lot of riveting hammers and accessories used un the aircraft industry, and truck industry. You will need a riveting hammer(similar to an air chisel,just more controllable) the bits for the air hammer, and a bucking bar for the back side of the rivet. Depending on the size and hardness of the rivets you are wanting you may also need a forge, as they are heated red hot, then installed and compressed.
Here is my collection of riveting tools I use for making everybody's sheet metal parts.

[img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9744/1003020.jpg[/img]

Different Style rivets I use
[img]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7321/1003019x.jpg[/img]
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Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:43 PM
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Here is my collection of riveting tools I use for making everybody's sheet metal parts.

[img]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9744/1003020.jpg[/img]

Different Style rivets I use
[img]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7321/1003019x.jpg[/img]
John, there is a store online called ''The Yardstore" they have all the riveting supplies and equipment that you will need, even used stuff. One thing thought, don't make the mistake of thinking that any pneumatic hammer is a riveter, they are not, the riveters just ''hit'' different and have a different trigger than your average air hammer. Clenching rivets to a round head on both sides( I think that is what you meant) is very difficult by by clenching with an air riveter and bucking bar,it is not usually done that way, you will have to find or make a buck the shape of the clench you want, make it from O-1 or W-1 and then harden it, I have done that in the past, but then the stick-out length of the rivet becomes very important and how you trim them to length is also very important, buy a rivet cutter. A 4X gun or bigger will be necessary for a 1/8 inch steel rivet.You didn't say what size rivets you are going to be working, sometimes the best thing is to make a set of dies for use in a hydraulic press and upset them that way, it is a lot easier on the ears.😆 That's my two cents worth, I hope it helps, Tad
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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 10:58 AM
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John, there is a store online called ''The Yardstore" they have all the riveting supplies and equipment that you will need, even used stuff. One thing thought, don't make the mistake of thinking that any pneumatic hammer is a riveter, they are not, the riveters just ''hit'' different and have a different trigger than your average air hammer. Clenching rivets to a round head on both sides( I think that is what you meant) is very difficult by by clenching with an air riveter and bucking bar,it is not usually done that way, you will have to find or make a buck the shape of the clench you want, make it from O-1 or W-1 and then harden it, I have done that in the past, but then the stick-out length of the rivet becomes very important and how you trim them to length is also very important, buy a rivet cutter. A 4X gun or bigger will be necessary for a 1/8 inch steel rivet.You didn't say what size rivets you are going to be working, sometimes the best thing is to make a set of dies for use in a hydraulic press and upset them that way, it is a lot easier on the ears.😆 That's my two cents worth, I hope it helps, Tad
Hello John

The rivets are available ex Cat they are listed in the One Source book. Cat had the best range i found and the widest choice.

After experimenting with air hammers etc, i now cheat. I cut the rivet down until about 1/8" protrudes, then i give the non rounded end a smack with a 32oz hammer then get out the mig welder and build the non visable side up with mig into a nice round shape. A lot more successful for me.
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Hello John

The rivets are available ex Cat they are listed in the One Source book. Cat had the best range i found and the widest choice.

After experimenting with air hammers etc, i now cheat. I cut the rivet down until about 1/8" protrudes, then i give the non rounded end a smack with a 32oz hammer then get out the mig welder and build the non visable side up with mig into a nice round shape. A lot more successful for me.
If I can get a good buck behind the rivet, I can finish the rivet with my air riveter faster than a person can weld it. My degree of success is determined by using the correct air pressure. My riveter likes 60 PSI. More or less air pressure makes a mess.
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