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Chuck C
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Show safety no one was hurt. the tractor was being unloaded at a show the trailer was leaning to the left and to the rear There were two tractors on the trailer. Owner unchained both tractors and was unloading the rear tractor when the tractor on the front of the trailer that was backed on the trailer(It was in gear but the brake was not locked) started to roll unmanned and rolled of the side of the trailer
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Sun, Sep 3, 2017 11:57 AM
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Someone's pride hurt but thank goodness no body hurt.
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Sun, Sep 3, 2017 12:00 PM
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Glad to hear no one hurt.Not the best way to start out at a show .
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Sun, Sep 3, 2017 12:02 PM
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Sun, Sep 3, 2017 12:03 PM
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Hi, Chuck C.
Thanks for the timely reminder. It is something that is always on my mind, wherever I may be, more so at shows 'cos there are a lot of 'part-timers' there. We have had one injury at Santa Margarita with somebody trying to load a tractor with not enough experience and knowledge. We have also had some close calls and I have a long memory about the situations and the people involved.

Safety at these shows is about the same things as out on a job site - sending home the same people in the same state of health they enjoyed when they arrived. ANYTHING that jeopardizes that goal needs to be classified as suspect and all due care taken or it is STOPPED.

Just my 0.02. Thanks again for the reminder.
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Sun, Sep 3, 2017 12:24 PM
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Two weeks ago I was at the Baraboo Wi.show. I was standing in the building when a D2 with a tool bar mounted subsoiler came into the sand box. He shifted into low gear and started to lower the subsoiler. As the subsoiler started to sink into the ground the front end of the D2 started to rear up more than I thought was normal. I proceeded to the spot that he was working and had him stop. The pony spring was missing and only one shackle had a pin in it . I showed him the problem and told him what could happen and he was thankful that I stopped him. He had a parts machine at home that he found the parts that he was missing and fixed the next morning. Tractor worked fine. He thought that the rearing up was normal because the machine was in his family for years and had done all the time. sorry no pictures.
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Mon, Sep 4, 2017 8:28 AM
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Two weeks ago I was at the Baraboo Wi.show. I was standing in the building when a D2 with a tool bar mounted subsoiler came into the sand box. He shifted into low gear and started to lower the subsoiler. As the subsoiler started to sink into the ground the front end of the D2 started to rear up more than I thought was normal. I proceeded to the spot that he was working and had him stop. The pony spring was missing and only one shackle had a pin in it . I showed him the problem and told him what could happen and he was thankful that I stopped him. He had a parts machine at home that he found the parts that he was missing and fixed the next morning. Tractor worked fine. He thought that the rearing up was normal because the machine was in his family for years and had done all the time. sorry no pictures.
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[quote="Chuck C"]Two weeks ago I was at the Baraboo Wi.show. I was standing in the building when a D2 with a tool bar mounted subsoiler came into the sand box. He shifted into low gear and started to lower the subsoiler. As the subsoiler started to sink into the ground the front end of the D2 started to rear up more than I thought was normal. I proceeded to the spot that he was working and had him stop. The pony spring was missing and only one shackle had a pin in it . I showed him the problem and told him what could happen and he was thankful that I stopped him. He had a parts machine at home that he found the parts that he was missing and fixed the next morning. Tractor worked fine. He thought that the rearing up was normal because the machine was in his family for years and had done all the time. sorry no pictures.
Chuck C[/quote]

Good catch. Its nice when someone understands the safety issue when it is pointed out and is appreciative.
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Mon, Sep 4, 2017 9:02 AM
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[quote="Chuck C"]Two weeks ago I was at the Baraboo Wi.show. I was standing in the building when a D2 with a tool bar mounted subsoiler came into the sand box. He shifted into low gear and started to lower the subsoiler. As the subsoiler started to sink into the ground the front end of the D2 started to rear up more than I thought was normal. I proceeded to the spot that he was working and had him stop. The pony spring was missing and only one shackle had a pin in it . I showed him the problem and told him what could happen and he was thankful that I stopped him. He had a parts machine at home that he found the parts that he was missing and fixed the next morning. Tractor worked fine. He thought that the rearing up was normal because the machine was in his family for years and had done all the time. sorry no pictures.
Chuck C[/quote]

Good catch. Its nice when someone understands the safety issue when it is pointed out and is appreciative.
Yes to all posts. Also, remember as we age and have been around this equipment all our lives we get complacent. This is partly why so many older farmers get injured or killed, even though they know better. This comes from a guy who's grandfather lost a brother to a farm accident tractor rollover. Always try to think about safety. And let's be honest, some of this older stuff doesn't have the idiot proof safeties in place, either like start in gear, brakes that don't work, no parking brake, no ROPS, no seat belt. Etc etc. Good to keep reminders going to help us help each other.
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Mon, Sep 4, 2017 10:57 AM
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Yes to all posts. Also, remember as we age and have been around this equipment all our lives we get complacent. This is partly why so many older farmers get injured or killed, even though they know better. This comes from a guy who's grandfather lost a brother to a farm accident tractor rollover. Always try to think about safety. And let's be honest, some of this older stuff doesn't have the idiot proof safeties in place, either like start in gear, brakes that don't work, no parking brake, no ROPS, no seat belt. Etc etc. Good to keep reminders going to help us help each other.
I did not see this but was there within 30 seconds of it happening. It was not thinking ahead on the operator owners part. I think he was just too excited. He did not even have his trailer chained to the truck? No one hurt and he will have some work to do on machine and put it back in order.
You can view my back side in a couple if Chuck's photos. Everyone including Chuck jumped in to make this help this guy out.
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Wed, Sep 6, 2017 3:56 AM
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I did not see this but was there within 30 seconds of it happening. It was not thinking ahead on the operator owners part. I think he was just too excited. He did not even have his trailer chained to the truck? No one hurt and he will have some work to do on machine and put it back in order.
You can view my back side in a couple if Chuck's photos. Everyone including Chuck jumped in to make this help this guy out.
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Hi, Tw.
That jumping in to help out is something that I have noticed at shows on both sides of the puddle and it is great to see. How-wevver, I am starting to wonder if it might be a good idea to have some very clued-up person supervising unloading and loading at these shows. Not necessarily doing the loading and unloading but keeping an eye out for unsafe practices, such as appears to have happened in this case.

'Rool' #1 - Unchain them WHEN you are ready to unload them, NOT before.

If you have multiple machines in a load, it is best to have all but the one being unloaded still chained down to avoid 'avalanche' consequences in the event something goes wrong while unloading the one.

We are very lucky at Santa Margarita in having a flat loading-unloading area and 3 separate sections of ramp at different heights to cater for different trailer heights. Even so, I think I might be doing some more work on that facility prior to next year's show, assuming I am able to attend. I 'borrowed' Tom Madden's beautiful Cat 966 loader and did some 'modifications' to the ramp this year but I can still see room for improvement.

Just my 0.02.
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