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Hal
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Ok guys I just bought a D2 3j. I need parts and repair manuals reproductions are fine. Where is the best place to get them I am going to be swapping the pony for another that needs a bearing so I will need to find numbers and I will be asking where to find that next.

Any tips and tricks for swapping the pony would be greatly appreciated!

I need oil and temp gauges Is there a direct replacement for these ? Don’t need replicas just something that works preferablely that fit original holes if possible

Also I need to clean pony gas tank. I am going to do the home grown version of electrolysis and then use what looks like an epoxy gas tank sealer. Has anyone done this and what was your results ?

I would like to add a fuel bowl with shut off under gas tank since my shut off currently doesn’t work Has anyone done this and is there one that fits cleanly up under the pony tank

Lots of questions I now but so much to learn and fix on my machine

Thanks
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 1:30 AM
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Look on eBay for parts catalog, serviceman's manual (repairs), and operator's manual for your serial # (covers a range). The correct range is important because Cat frequently upgraded parts and designs and they're not all interchangeable. Cat Legendary Literature may also be able to provide high quality reproductions - I got my 3J parts catalog from them and I like it because it's a larger size format so easier to read

Get the parts catalog because you're going to need a ton of gaskets etc. and posting those gets old : )

Cat has direct replacement gauges that fit.

I cleaned my pony tank with citric acid and lined it with one of those products - works fine.

Yes, you can get those anywhere to fit e.g. Tractor Supply, mower store, small engine warehouse. I'm going to replace my original Zenith one because it too does not seal well and that's more important to me than looking old school.
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 2:21 AM
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I've used the temp gauge from the local auto parts store. Fit just fine and the black and white fave didn't look to bad
Tractor supply had a shut off with a glass sediment bowl that looks close to the original. I'm thinking a mechanical oil pressure gauge could be adapted in also. That's if you just want it to work, if you're restoring you'll have to find the originals. There's a link to parts suppliers at the top of the forum page.
Pony motor is pretty straightforward just need to make sure you have all the nuts off. They're hard to get at but not impossible.
I don't have any experience with the epoxy coating in the gas tank but know guys who have done it with good results
Lots of info here from a lot of knowledgeable guys
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 2:27 AM
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Reply to neil:
Look on eBay for parts catalog, serviceman's manual (repairs), and operator's manual for your serial # (covers a range). The correct range is important because Cat frequently upgraded parts and designs and they're not all interchangeable. Cat Legendary Literature may also be able to provide high quality reproductions - I got my 3J parts catalog from them and I like it because it's a larger size format so easier to read

Get the parts catalog because you're going to need a ton of gaskets etc. and posting those gets old : )

Cat has direct replacement gauges that fit.

I cleaned my pony tank with citric acid and lined it with one of those products - works fine.

Yes, you can get those anywhere to fit e.g. Tractor Supply, mower store, small engine warehouse. I'm going to replace my original Zenith one because it too does not seal well and that's more important to me than looking old school.
[quote="Neil"]Look on eBay for parts catalog, serviceman's manual (repairs), and operator's manual for your serial # (covers a range). The correct range is important because Cat frequently upgraded parts and designs and they're not all interchangeable. Cat Legendary Literature may also be able to provide high quality reproductions - I got my 3J parts catalog from them and I like it because it's a larger size format so easier to read

Get the parts catalog because you're going to need a ton of gaskets etc. and posting those gets old : )

Cat has direct replacement gauges that fit.

I cleaned my pony tank with citric acid and lined it with one of those products - works fine.

Yes, you can get those anywhere to fit e.g. Tractor Supply, mower store, small engine warehouse. I'm going to replace my original Zenith one because it too does not seal well and that's more important to me than looking old school.[/quote]

Thanks Neil
I will definitely be hunting down those manuals I’ve looked on line and it’s kind of confusing but I’ll hit up eBay and see what I can find. On the sediment bowl. Was there one originally ? Mine has nothing just a hose straight to the carb. The previous owner complained about problems with it, I wondered why he didn’t at least put a cheap inline filter in. I will find a sediment bowl with shut off as it is a more permanent solution. I will try the citric acid instead of electrolysisand save the paint. Thanks again
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 4:26 AM
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I've used the temp gauge from the local auto parts store. Fit just fine and the black and white fave didn't look to bad
Tractor supply had a shut off with a glass sediment bowl that looks close to the original. I'm thinking a mechanical oil pressure gauge could be adapted in also. That's if you just want it to work, if you're restoring you'll have to find the originals. There's a link to parts suppliers at the top of the forum page.
Pony motor is pretty straightforward just need to make sure you have all the nuts off. They're hard to get at but not impossible.
I don't have any experience with the epoxy coating in the gas tank but know guys who have done it with good results
Lots of info here from a lot of knowledgeable guys
[quote="d2gary"]I've used the temp gauge from the local auto parts store. Fit just fine and the black and white fave didn't look to bad
Tractor supply had a shut off with a glass sediment bowl that looks close to the original. I'm thinking a mechanical oil pressure gauge could be adapted in also. That's if you just want it to work, if you're restoring you'll have to find the originals. There's a link to parts suppliers at the top of the forum page.
Pony motor is pretty straightforward just need to make sure you have all the nuts off. They're hard to get at but not impossible.
I don't have any experience with the epoxy coating in the gas tank but know guys who have done it with good results
Lots of info here from a lot of knowledgeable guys[/quote]

Good to know I can find gauges to fit. They just need to work restoration isn’t in the near future I’m putting this ole girl back to work, retirement is on hiatuse ! I have the original gauges still just don’t want to spend the money to have them restored right now, you can bet they will be put in a safe place though. There seems to a lot of knowledgeable folks on here. And I love how willing to share that information you all are
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 4:38 AM
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Reply to Hal:
[quote="d2gary"]I've used the temp gauge from the local auto parts store. Fit just fine and the black and white fave didn't look to bad
Tractor supply had a shut off with a glass sediment bowl that looks close to the original. I'm thinking a mechanical oil pressure gauge could be adapted in also. That's if you just want it to work, if you're restoring you'll have to find the originals. There's a link to parts suppliers at the top of the forum page.
Pony motor is pretty straightforward just need to make sure you have all the nuts off. They're hard to get at but not impossible.
I don't have any experience with the epoxy coating in the gas tank but know guys who have done it with good results
Lots of info here from a lot of knowledgeable guys[/quote]

Good to know I can find gauges to fit. They just need to work restoration isn’t in the near future I’m putting this ole girl back to work, retirement is on hiatuse ! I have the original gauges still just don’t want to spend the money to have them restored right now, you can bet they will be put in a safe place though. There seems to a lot of knowledgeable folks on here. And I love how willing to share that information you all are
I cleaned my pony tank by putting bolts,nuts,some sand and water in it, strapped it to my lawn mower tire and let it churn. cleaned it out good and then coated the inside with an epoxy. it plugged all the pinholes in it. I just added and inline filter for the carburetor gas line
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 5:25 AM
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Reply to dpendzic:
I cleaned my pony tank by putting bolts,nuts,some sand and water in it, strapped it to my lawn mower tire and let it churn. cleaned it out good and then coated the inside with an epoxy. it plugged all the pinholes in it. I just added and inline filter for the carburetor gas line
yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 5:56 AM
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Reply to neil:
yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
Post your serial #
[quote="Neil"]yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
Post your serial #[/quote]

I was thinking you could still get the original fuel valve from Cat, just reuse the glass bowl.
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 6:11 AM
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Reply to neil:
yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
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[quote="Neil"]yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
Post your serial #[/quote]

The serial number is 3J1846

Ok I thought it odd to not have any filtration. I’ll find something to replace it. I really need to get those manuals
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 6:28 AM
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[quote="Neil"]yes there was a sediment bowl (glass) - they're quite a nice look but unfortunately no longer available.
Post your serial #[/quote]

I was thinking you could still get the original fuel valve from Cat, just reuse the glass bowl.
Hal, I talked to a person that runs a radiator shop about cleaning my pony fuel tank before I coated the inside. He recommended Muriatic Acid diluted. It is used in swimming pools and other applications. I got it at D&B Supply. I used it and it worked very well. Got all the rust out completely from any pits or dings in the tank.. Rinse with baking soda and water to neutralise the acid. Dry inside to prevent any more rust from forming before coating. Need to let the new coating cure very well before adding fuel.

Bruce
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 6:29 AM
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Hal, I talked to a person that runs a radiator shop about cleaning my pony fuel tank before I coated the inside. He recommended Muriatic Acid diluted. It is used in swimming pools and other applications. I got it at D&B Supply. I used it and it worked very well. Got all the rust out completely from any pits or dings in the tank.. Rinse with baking soda and water to neutralise the acid. Dry inside to prevent any more rust from forming before coating. Need to let the new coating cure very well before adding fuel.

Bruce
[quote="blwatson"]Hal, I talked to a person that runs a radiator shop about cleaning my pony fuel tank before I coated the inside. He recommended Muriatic Acid diluted. It is used in swimming pools and other applications. I got it at D&B Supply. I used it and it worked very well. Got all the rust out completely from any pits or dings in the tank.. Rinse with baking soda and water to neutralise the acid. Dry inside to prevent any more rust from forming before coating. Need to let the new coating cure very well before adding fuel.

Bruce[/quote]

Bruce

Great idea. I’ve used it before and know it’s pretty sting. What dilution ratio did you use and how long did you let it set ? I know it will vary depending on condition of tank
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