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Bruce P
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So I got started hauling wheat to town today, actually I got the bins set up yesterday so I could roll this morning. At any rate, I got a phone call last night from David Ruark. He is one of the folks in charge of the Eastern Washington Agriculture Museum (EWAM). David asked, "you want to go look at a self propelled Holt?"

For those who aren't combine aficionados, Holt built one of the first self propelled combines back in the mid teens. They had a track on one side and a wheel on the other. In some cases, the wheel drove as well, but this one seems to just drive with the track.

Well of course I wanted to see it so I took a load down this morning and David and his wife picked me up at the terminal. We picked up Dick Lloyd on the way and went to where the combine was. We were met by the owner who was wanting to donate it to EWAM. Once at the combine site, I was surprised at how much was there, a fire or two had came through over the years so the wood was mostly gone, but the metal was very much there. The engine was gone as was the wheel on the left side but the driving track and transmission were still there, as were the cylinder and the leveling mechanism.

I'm sure most of you are sick of me posting about combines, but at least this one is a Holt, so it's on topic.

Here are a few pictures, I know it's hard to make some of the details out, but I'll add captions after I put the pictures up.

Bruce P

Picture one-leveling mechanism, two-overall view, three-front wheel, four- steering shaft sticks up, five-gearshift quadrant, six-sprocket end of the track, seven- pads.

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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:02 AM
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Bruce, I never tire of the old pull type combines. They provided a large part of the chores that the tracked tractors did. Caterpillar (Best/Holt) tractors were originally designed for farming enterprises so the combines are very much a part of that history
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:41 AM
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Hey Bruce, That's going to be a big project. I believe that Holt built a small self-propelled sheet metal machine in the early teens as well, now whether is was prototype or production model I don't know. I have often wondered, if one were to take on the total reconstruction of one of these machines what would one do for lumber. The fine grained, dry seasoned lumber of yesteryear is long gone, if it were to be made of today's lumber it would shrink,twist and split and you would have nothing but a mess, one might have some kiln dried and then resawn (is that a real word) but what about the grain. I don't even know what variety was used originally and lord knows you couldn't paint it with lead based paint you would have nothing but a rolling toxic waste dump (heaven forbid) but you could always put the EPA guy right near the back of the machine to keep an eye on things:eyebrows: Tad
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:47 AM
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Hey Bruce, That's going to be a big project. I believe that Holt built a small self-propelled sheet metal machine in the early teens as well, now whether is was prototype or production model I don't know. I have often wondered, if one were to take on the total reconstruction of one of these machines what would one do for lumber. The fine grained, dry seasoned lumber of yesteryear is long gone, if it were to be made of today's lumber it would shrink,twist and split and you would have nothing but a mess, one might have some kiln dried and then resawn (is that a real word) but what about the grain. I don't even know what variety was used originally and lord knows you couldn't paint it with lead based paint you would have nothing but a rolling toxic waste dump (heaven forbid) but you could always put the EPA guy right near the back of the machine to keep an eye on things:eyebrows: Tad
Eastern tulip poplar is close grained, stays straight and lasts a long time without any paint. You eastern guys chime in here. Am I right?
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:02 AM
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Poplar is good. White oak would be good as well.
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:06 AM
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Eastern tulip poplar is close grained, stays straight and lasts a long time without any paint. You eastern guys chime in here. Am I right?
I believe Jim Heater rebuilt one of these one stick at a time, would e a heck of a challenge. The museum will probably just get it for a display, I don't think they will attempt to rebuild it.

The wood in the combine I just cleaned up was incredible, NO knots, all vertical grain. It really must have been a sight to see when new. There was red paint on the outside a pretty blue on the inside.


By the way, the kids say the paint on the wood we saved from that old combine tastes great.

We probably won't go after this till spring, but I'll get lots more pictures once it's out of the grass.

BP.
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:16 AM
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Poplar is good. White oak would be good as well.


Poplar, Also called Popple or Aspen is real good as long as it is seasoned before it is sawn. Otherwise it twists badly while drying.
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:18 AM
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I believe Jim Heater rebuilt one of these one stick at a time, would e a heck of a challenge. The museum will probably just get it for a display, I don't think they will attempt to rebuild it.

The wood in the combine I just cleaned up was incredible, NO knots, all vertical grain. It really must have been a sight to see when new. There was red paint on the outside a pretty blue on the inside.


By the way, the kids say the paint on the wood we saved from that old combine tastes great.

We probably won't go after this till spring, but I'll get lots more pictures once it's out of the grass.

BP.
I should add, the beams in the combine we cleaned up sure smelled like pine of fir when we cut them. I've been told they used the very best wood in the combines. Being west coast manufacturered I would imagine some sort of evergreen was used, but I stand to be corrected.

Also, Lorri Dunning had told me there are only 9 of these known. I'm not sure there is enough left of this one to qualify as #10

BP
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 9:25 AM
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I should add, the beams in the combine we cleaned up sure smelled like pine of fir when we cut them. I've been told they used the very best wood in the combines. Being west coast manufacturered I would imagine some sort of evergreen was used, but I stand to be corrected.

Also, Lorri Dunning had told me there are only 9 of these known. I'm not sure there is enough left of this one to qualify as #10

BP
Laminated Marine Plywood - once painted no one would know. Bob
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Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:08 PM
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Laminated Marine Plywood - once painted no one would know. Bob
Keep sharing the harvester stories about how it us to be. Holt anything was what built the company Cat is today.


The wood being a problem is not new.My dad had stories about right after WW2 (I think 47)he had new JD 36b pulled with a Cat 35 D working along side the comparable model Harris wood combine pulled with a D7. The owners of the Harris where very disappointed,the whole machine warped to where the engine was always overloaded so it ran hot. As well as the wood was heavier than the steel machine so the 7 was also worked harder. The problems with this wood combine caused it to be one of the last wooden combines sold locally.
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Wed, Oct 18, 2017 3:36 AM
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Keep sharing the harvester stories about how it us to be. Holt anything was what built the company Cat is today.


The wood being a problem is not new.My dad had stories about right after WW2 (I think 47)he had new JD 36b pulled with a Cat 35 D working along side the comparable model Harris wood combine pulled with a D7. The owners of the Harris where very disappointed,the whole machine warped to where the engine was always overloaded so it ran hot. As well as the wood was heavier than the steel machine so the 7 was also worked harder. The problems with this wood combine caused it to be one of the last wooden combines sold locally.
There was one of those self propelled Holt's in Deep Creek Wa. It sold to somebody in Brookings Ore. Think he got it restored. A lot of work. We have a wood 30-38 in our museum and I harvested alongside it running a steel 30-38 and we also had a new Massy self propelled. Don't think we had much time when all three ran at the same time. Figured out over time that a lot of old stuff that we would like to restore should be called "Leverites" . Leave her right where you found it. !!
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Wed, Oct 18, 2017 4:41 AM
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