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MARCOTEN
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because the original top from the carb was broken, and a new or 2nd hand-one was not available or very expensive, i cast myself one from aluminium, and machined it down.
on the last picture you can see it mounted and the engine runs fine with it!
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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 2:39 AM
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Well done Marcoten, I've often thought a Chinese backyard foundry could make those pesky and hard to find Ensign carburetors for about $3.69 if they had a good sample to start with, and we ordered 50,000 of them, probably only cost $9.99 if we ordered 100 of them!:lol
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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 3:29 AM
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Reply to Mike Meyer:
Well done Marcoten, I've often thought a Chinese backyard foundry could make those pesky and hard to find Ensign carburetors for about $3.69 if they had a good sample to start with, and we ordered 50,000 of them, probably only cost $9.99 if we ordered 100 of them!:lol
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Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.
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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 4:06 AM
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Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.
Both should be proud of your workmanship. Very nice job on both. Have a good day!
Snuffy
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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 6:43 AM
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[quote="MARCOTEN"]because the original top from the carb was broken, and a new or 2nd hand-one was not available or very expensive, i cast myself one from aluminium, and machined it down.
on the last picture you can see it mounted and the engine runs fine with it!
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Hi Marcoten,
That's a high quality piece of work there.
I'm curious as to how you made the pattern and what material you used for the mould.
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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 12:54 PM
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[quote="MARCOTEN"]because the original top from the carb was broken, and a new or 2nd hand-one was not available or very expensive, i cast myself one from aluminium, and machined it down.
on the last picture you can see it mounted and the engine runs fine with it!
[/quote]

Hi Marcoten,
That's a high quality piece of work there.
I'm curious as to how you made the pattern and what material you used for the mould.
all thanks for the replys,
@gauntjoh: for the pattern i used the old carbtop, i glued it back togetter and put some extra filler on it , specialy on corners to avoid the original squere corners, i made them a bit more round for more strengt and avoiding breakege later, also on the place where the fuel enters i made it a bit thicker for this reason.
i made the entrance of fuel not like original as that was a reson that many tops broke because it used to leak and then by trying to tighten it up to avoid the leaking the tops broke
i cast the extra hub on it for making it possible to put it in a lathe and machine it.

As a mold i used fireproof cement as i didn't have real molding sand.
First i tried several other materials like sand, oily sand, sand with cement, and several others, but that didnt had the good results for me.

the white stuff on the mold is a bit quick plaster as there broke a little piece of when i removed the pattern, and i repaired it.
the first casing in that mold didn't succeed, as there was still too much water in the hardened cement (even i left the mold on the bbq for 1 hour) there became steam/gas bubbles in the casting, so i did it again and it was ok now.

for heating up the aluminium i used my propane oxygen torch, but with a bit more propane then a flame for cutting.
it took me a lot of days to make it, but it was very nice to do and with a nice result!

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Wed, Oct 10, 2012 5:24 PM
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Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.
[quote="chriscokid"]Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.[/quote]

Erik, how did you affix the bronze thread into the aluminum block?
Cheers,
Neil.
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Thu, Oct 11, 2012 6:40 AM
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[quote="chriscokid"]Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.[/quote]

Erik, how did you affix the bronze thread into the aluminum block?
Cheers,
Neil.
Nice Job

I like creative solutions to problems.

Sometimes i wonder why Others and myself put time and money into what seems like a less than ideal carb.
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Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:26 AM
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[quote="chriscokid"]Looks Good,
I made one out of a block of aluminum.[/quote]

Erik, how did you affix the bronze thread into the aluminum block?
Cheers,
Neil.
[quote="Neil"]Erik, how did you affix the bronze thread into the aluminum block?
Cheers,
Neil.[/quote]

Press Fit.
It turned out nice, but the brass is to repair an opps!
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Thu, Oct 11, 2012 7:38 AM
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Reply to MARCOTEN:
all thanks for the replys,
@gauntjoh: for the pattern i used the old carbtop, i glued it back togetter and put some extra filler on it , specialy on corners to avoid the original squere corners, i made them a bit more round for more strengt and avoiding breakege later, also on the place where the fuel enters i made it a bit thicker for this reason.
i made the entrance of fuel not like original as that was a reson that many tops broke because it used to leak and then by trying to tighten it up to avoid the leaking the tops broke
i cast the extra hub on it for making it possible to put it in a lathe and machine it.

As a mold i used fireproof cement as i didn't have real molding sand.
First i tried several other materials like sand, oily sand, sand with cement, and several others, but that didnt had the good results for me.

the white stuff on the mold is a bit quick plaster as there broke a little piece of when i removed the pattern, and i repaired it.
the first casing in that mold didn't succeed, as there was still too much water in the hardened cement (even i left the mold on the bbq for 1 hour) there became steam/gas bubbles in the casting, so i did it again and it was ok now.

for heating up the aluminium i used my propane oxygen torch, but with a bit more propane then a flame for cutting.
it took me a lot of days to make it, but it was very nice to do and with a nice result!

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[quote="MARCOTEN"]all thanks for the replys,
@gauntjoh: for the pattern i used the old carbtop, i glued it back togetter and put some extra filler on it , specialy on corners to avoid the original squere corners, i made them a bit more round for more strengt and avoiding breakege later, also on the place where the fuel enters i made it a bit thicker for this reason.
i made the entrance of fuel not like original as that was a reson that many tops broke because it used to leak and then by trying to tighten it up to avoid the leaking the tops broke
i cast the extra hub on it for making it possible to put it in a lathe and machine it.

As a mold i used fireproof cement as i didn't have real molding sand.
First i tried several other materials like sand, oily sand, sand with cement, and several others, but that didnt had the good results for me.

the white stuff on the mold is a bit quick plaster as there broke a little piece of when i removed the pattern, and i repaired it.
the first casing in that mold didn't succeed, as there was still too much water in the hardened cement (even i left the mold on the bbq for 1 hour) there became steam/gas bubbles in the casting, so i did it again and it was ok now.

for heating up the aluminium i used my propane oxygen torch, but with a bit more propane then a flame for cutting.
it took me a lot of days to make it, but it was very nice to do and with a nice result!
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Bedankt Marcoten,
Casting with aluminium is something I've often wanted to try, I've just never had a good enough reason to have a go. I think your experience will spur me on to try it out sometime soon.
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Thu, Oct 11, 2012 1:07 PM
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[quote="MARCOTEN"]all thanks for the replys,
@gauntjoh: for the pattern i used the old carbtop, i glued it back togetter and put some extra filler on it , specialy on corners to avoid the original squere corners, i made them a bit more round for more strengt and avoiding breakege later, also on the place where the fuel enters i made it a bit thicker for this reason.
i made the entrance of fuel not like original as that was a reson that many tops broke because it used to leak and then by trying to tighten it up to avoid the leaking the tops broke
i cast the extra hub on it for making it possible to put it in a lathe and machine it.

As a mold i used fireproof cement as i didn't have real molding sand.
First i tried several other materials like sand, oily sand, sand with cement, and several others, but that didnt had the good results for me.

the white stuff on the mold is a bit quick plaster as there broke a little piece of when i removed the pattern, and i repaired it.
the first casing in that mold didn't succeed, as there was still too much water in the hardened cement (even i left the mold on the bbq for 1 hour) there became steam/gas bubbles in the casting, so i did it again and it was ok now.

for heating up the aluminium i used my propane oxygen torch, but with a bit more propane then a flame for cutting.
it took me a lot of days to make it, but it was very nice to do and with a nice result!
[/quote]

Bedankt Marcoten,
Casting with aluminium is something I've often wanted to try, I've just never had a good enough reason to have a go. I think your experience will spur me on to try it out sometime soon.
Both of these cases are "Thinking outside of the Box".
I had always thought that seeing one machined out of a block was genius, now I am wowed by the pure craftsmanship of actually casting one!
Nice job to the both of you!

Jeff

BTW:
This is a highly Marketable item as there are alot of guys in the world of tractors who have 3 or 4 of these with damaged tops sitting on a shelf in their shops.
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