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Hal
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Ok Guys I bought a can of red coat tank sealer to fix the rusty tank for the pony motor while it’s off my D2. I figured while I’m at it I should do the seat tank as well. Somewhere over the years someone backed into something and dented the seat tank pretty good. I was hoping to fix it if possible. My idea is to fit an air line to the drain and pressurize it to see if it will pop it back out. Question being is has anyone had luck doing this or will I just rupture the tank or have no results at all ? Hoping someone has some experience with this

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Wed, Jul 11, 2018 10:56 PM
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I've never tried that but my gut tells me the amount of pressure you would need to possibly move the dent would also have enough pressure to rupture the tank somewhere else. Since you would have no actual control to focus the pressure in the spot you need it, it could be a risky attempt IMO.

You'd be best off doing it more like an autobody shop and spot weld tabs to pull the dent out. But, welding on a fuel tank is dangerous and requires using certain procedures to do it.

Could you just use a big wooden dowel or something and push/pry it back out via the fuel inlet?

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Wed, Jul 11, 2018 11:23 PM
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Air pressure won't work for that, the steel is just too heavy and the shape is not meant for pressure. something bad would happen before you could pressurize the tank enough to reform.
The most sucessfull way is to very neatly cut out out the whole back of the tank, straighten the bent piece or even better have a new piece cut and bent to the right shape and reweld into tank.
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Wed, Jul 11, 2018 11:30 PM
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Air pressure won't work for that, the steel is just too heavy and the shape is not meant for pressure. something bad would happen before you could pressurize the tank enough to reform.
The most sucessfull way is to very neatly cut out out the whole back of the tank, straighten the bent piece or even better have a new piece cut and bent to the right shape and reweld into tank.
I have seen a Couple where folk have simply Folded and Rolled a Sheet and welded straight on to Tank , Good neat Welding and a Coat of Paint and they Look fine and no one would notice. Take all safety Measures of Course LJ
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Wed, Jul 11, 2018 11:43 PM
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I have seen a Couple where folk have simply Folded and Rolled a Sheet and welded straight on to Tank , Good neat Welding and a Coat of Paint and they Look fine and no one would notice. Take all safety Measures of Course LJ
Ok thanks guys. You convinced me not to try it, I suspected it wouldn’t work due to them using real metal back in the day. It really isn’t that important at this point was just hoping for an easy fix I’ll just seal the inside of the tank for now and leave the dent for another day

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Wed, Jul 11, 2018 11:52 PM
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I have seen a Couple where folk have simply Folded and Rolled a Sheet and welded straight on to Tank , Good neat Welding and a Coat of Paint and they Look fine and no one would notice. Take all safety Measures of Course LJ


Lance. That sounds like the easiest way to go and the least invasive option
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Thu, Jul 12, 2018 12:33 AM
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Lance. That sounds like the easiest way to go and the least invasive option
As an option, you can guess where the point of impact was that caused the dent. Weld a big washer or tab there. Use a come- along to pull the dent out in the opposite direction that it was hit. Tap the surrounding area ( on the tank ) with a hammer to help the metal reshap itself . Remove tab/ washer.

Your tank would need to be bolted to the tractor for this to work obviously , it's some strong metal.
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Thu, Jul 12, 2018 2:18 AM
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Any chance you could slip a scissors type jack in through the fill opening and jack the dent out enough to use body filler on it. Some of them that come in compact cars are pretty skinny and you could cut down the "foot" to get it to fit better. Of course you might just create a corresponding dent outward in the front surface!
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Thu, Jul 12, 2018 7:16 AM
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Any chance you could slip a scissors type jack in through the fill opening and jack the dent out enough to use body filler on it. Some of them that come in compact cars are pretty skinny and you could cut down the "foot" to get it to fit better. Of course you might just create a corresponding dent outward in the front surface!
Very bad idea, good way to get hurt or worse if the tank splits....WA7OPY
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Thu, Jul 12, 2018 7:46 AM
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Very bad idea, good way to get hurt or worse if the tank splits....WA7OPY
I spent a piece of change repairing my screw up, I was pressurizing my tank on my 212 to push fuel back through the lines after changing out filters and an injector nozzle, I found several "formerly thin" spots in my fuel tank a the bottom and when I was done making a mess it drizzled fuel for a couple of days out of the bottom of the tank. There were about a dozen pinholes in the bottom, all probably nicely filled with rust. I squeezed some air in and the rust squeezed out followed by the fuel.
It was pretty humiliating although I wrote it off as a "preemptive repair." It sounded better than; I screwed up....
I'm not afraid of hard work; I can lay down beside it anytime and take a nap.
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