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They can call it a T-100 and paint it any color they like but to me it's still a 3T D-7.

Did CAT have a deal with the Russians to allow them to build these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4msKk0FU9A4

Starting up a T-100 I like the ripper. Wish one of my many 3T's had had one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDh-F8wTMeo
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Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:39 PM
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Typical Stalin-era Soviet tactic...reverse-engineer it & claim you invented it...they did it w/the B-29 too.
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Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:09 PM
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Typical Stalin-era Soviet tactic...reverse-engineer it & claim you invented it...they did it w/the B-29 too.
Hi, Old 3T Lover.
Neat find. Thanks for sharing. I don't know for sure about the build license situation but Cat did sell some equipment to the Russians back in the 7M-3T era, before the cold war got really 'arctic'. There 'may' have been some sort of license agreement but I suspect that some 'industrial strength carbon paper' would be more likely to have been used.

I doubt that 'gadget' on the back of the tractor in the second clip is a 'ripper'. It looks more like some sort of equipment attachment point to me, sorta like a 3-pt linkage. I grant you that it does look pretty solid though, at least for a 3-pt linkage.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:32 PM
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Hi, Old 3T Lover.
Neat find. Thanks for sharing. I don't know for sure about the build license situation but Cat did sell some equipment to the Russians back in the 7M-3T era, before the cold war got really 'arctic'. There 'may' have been some sort of license agreement but I suspect that some 'industrial strength carbon paper' would be more likely to have been used.

I doubt that 'gadget' on the back of the tractor in the second clip is a 'ripper'. It looks more like some sort of equipment attachment point to me, sorta like a 3-pt linkage. I grant you that it does look pretty solid though, at least for a 3-pt linkage.

Just my 0.02.
My reading of the history of CATERPILLAR finds them exporting a lot of machines to the Soviet Union during the Depression to the point of that that market greatly aided CAT to get through the hard times. I believe Deas is right that they had a license to build them over there.

Thanks for sharing the films.

Jan
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Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:42 AM
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My reading of the history of CATERPILLAR finds them exporting a lot of machines to the Soviet Union during the Depression to the point of that that market greatly aided CAT to get through the hard times. I believe Deas is right that they had a license to build them over there.

Thanks for sharing the films.

Jan
Komapartsu in the 80's made a d85e I think it was, that looked like a carbon copy of a D8K with Komapartsu decals on it.
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Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:37 AM
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Komapartsu in the 80's made a d85e I think it was, that looked like a carbon copy of a D8K with Komapartsu decals on it.
Who knows now how the Russians ended up making them interestingly I was doing some work for a South African expat a few months ago and he was telling me that when there was all the import bans with apartheid laws they just started making all there own parts for John Deere Ford Case Cat ect you name they made it and it went from just parts to whole machines so this gets me thinking that maybe something similar started in Russia ? after the cold war got real cold seeya
Paul
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Wed, Nov 6, 2013 3:55 AM
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My reading of the history of CATERPILLAR finds them exporting a lot of machines to the Soviet Union during the Depression to the point of that that market greatly aided CAT to get through the hard times. I believe Deas is right that they had a license to build them over there.

Thanks for sharing the films.

Jan
[quote="janmeermans"]My reading of the history of CATERPILLAR finds them exporting a lot of machines to the Soviet Union during the Depression to the point of that that market greatly aided CAT to get through the hard times. I believe Deas is right that they had a license to build them over there.

Thanks for sharing the films.

Jan[/quote]

The official history of John Deere Company says pretty much the same thing-Stalin was buying a lot of ag machinery to try & implement his "5-year plans", & he was selling off the Czar's treasure to finance it...that's how the Rockefellers, Mellons, & Gettys got so much Russian art & jewels...but-it helped JD survive the Depression.
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[quote="janmeermans"]My reading of the history of CATERPILLAR finds them exporting a lot of machines to the Soviet Union during the Depression to the point of that that market greatly aided CAT to get through the hard times. I believe Deas is right that they had a license to build them over there.

Thanks for sharing the films.

Jan[/quote]

The official history of John Deere Company says pretty much the same thing-Stalin was buying a lot of ag machinery to try & implement his "5-year plans", & he was selling off the Czar's treasure to finance it...that's how the Rockefellers, Mellons, & Gettys got so much Russian art & jewels...but-it helped JD survive the Depression.
I believe we were sending Cats to Russia, and locomotives and airplanes and ???, during WW II on the lend-lease program.
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Wed, Nov 6, 2013 11:40 AM
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I believe we were sending Cats to Russia, and locomotives and airplanes and ???, during WW II on the lend-lease program.
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these are some pictures of Russian crawlers in Antarctica there out of the magazine shown there is all sorts of stuff on tracks in there even that plane looks a lot like a DC3 to me and it says its a Soviet built Dakota-type aircraft so I would guess a lot of stuff was copied seeya
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