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Russell leaves the party – Traxcavator 955 12A

Daughter Andrea brought her 1901 Russell Traction engine to our house to celebrate her mothers birthday. Everyone stayed until dark so they could see Andrea do a “spark show”. The crowd loved it! Later that week we transported Russell back to Rough & Tumble. We used the 955 Traxcavator to load it onto the trailer since it was a dead engine (no steam) at that point. The 955 pushed it on at an idle – with no problem. Note the push bar & pintle hook in the bucket set-up. Hope you enjoy the pictures.
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Thu, Jun 23, 2011 9:03 AM
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Bill, I'm pretty sure you are having too much fun, but thanks for sharing
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Thu, Jun 23, 2011 9:54 AM
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Very nice photos! Smooth operation. Under steam, how many hp does the Russell have? GWH
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Thu, Jun 23, 2011 9:56 AM
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Very nice photos! Smooth operation. Under steam, how many hp does the Russell have? GWH
I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?
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I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?
[quote="dpendzic"]I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?[/quote]

I don't think alignement and tension is critical. I think the theory is that the pulleys are ever so slightly convex in profile, counterintuitively this make the belt stay centered by causing it to 'steer' itself away from the edges. (At least that's how I understand it) Maybe like train (railroad) wheels, they and the track are profiled to make the wheels stay central - the wheel flanges are just there to make you and me feel happier and as a 'last resort.'

What I like to see is when the belt has a 180 degree twist so that the pulleys turn in opposite directions. Now how the belt stays on when it's having a fight with itself mid-span is beyond me!

Julian
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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:43 AM
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[quote="dpendzic"]I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?[/quote]

I don't think alignement and tension is critical. I think the theory is that the pulleys are ever so slightly convex in profile, counterintuitively this make the belt stay centered by causing it to 'steer' itself away from the edges. (At least that's how I understand it) Maybe like train (railroad) wheels, they and the track are profiled to make the wheels stay central - the wheel flanges are just there to make you and me feel happier and as a 'last resort.'

What I like to see is when the belt has a 180 degree twist so that the pulleys turn in opposite directions. Now how the belt stays on when it's having a fight with itself mid-span is beyond me!

Julian
[quote="Julian"]I don't think alignement and tension is critical. I think the theory is that the pulleys are ever so slightly convex in profile, counterintuitively this make the belt stay centered by causing it to 'steer' itself away from the edges. (At least that's how I understand it) Maybe like train (railroad) wheels, they and the track are profiled to make the wheels stay central - the wheel flanges are just there to make you and me feel happier and as a 'last resort.'

What I like to see is when the belt has a 180 degree twist so that the pulleys turn in opposite directions. Now how the belt stays on when it's having a fight with itself mid-span is beyond me!

Julian[/quote]


Here is my 60 on the thresher with the twisted belt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHmMxvJHizM

We have a baler that uses a flat belt that we use to bale the straw. Back in the seventies they were using it at a local show and couldn't keep the belt on. An old timer told them to take a roll of duct tape and make a few wraps on the center of the pulley to make it concaved as you suggest. Never had any problem with the belt coming off after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldeLcVnpJY
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[quote="Julian"]I don't think alignement and tension is critical. I think the theory is that the pulleys are ever so slightly convex in profile, counterintuitively this make the belt stay centered by causing it to 'steer' itself away from the edges. (At least that's how I understand it) Maybe like train (railroad) wheels, they and the track are profiled to make the wheels stay central - the wheel flanges are just there to make you and me feel happier and as a 'last resort.'

What I like to see is when the belt has a 180 degree twist so that the pulleys turn in opposite directions. Now how the belt stays on when it's having a fight with itself mid-span is beyond me!

Julian[/quote]


Here is my 60 on the thresher with the twisted belt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHmMxvJHizM

We have a baler that uses a flat belt that we use to bale the straw. Back in the seventies they were using it at a local show and couldn't keep the belt on. An old timer told them to take a roll of duct tape and make a few wraps on the center of the pulley to make it concaved as you suggest. Never had any problem with the belt coming off after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldeLcVnpJY
[quote="Jim Sixty"]Here is my 60 on the thresher with the twisted belt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHmMxvJHizM

We have a baler that uses a flat belt that we use to bale the straw. Back in the seventies they were using it at a local show and couldn't keep the belt on. An old timer told them to take a roll of duct tape and make a few wraps on the center of the pulley to make it concaved as you suggest. Never had any problem with the belt coming off after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldeLcVnpJY[/quote]

I like that self powered bailer, I'm guessing that the bales are tied off by hand with steel wire? An old chap once told me about bales tied with wire but I'd never seen it done before. I guess you have to take care with timing as you feed the hay/straw in at the top, get it wrong and you've a snapped pikel or worse the handle could smack you in the chin and bring a tear or two to the eyes 😞

Julian.
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Reply to Julian:
[quote="Jim Sixty"]Here is my 60 on the thresher with the twisted belt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHmMxvJHizM

We have a baler that uses a flat belt that we use to bale the straw. Back in the seventies they were using it at a local show and couldn't keep the belt on. An old timer told them to take a roll of duct tape and make a few wraps on the center of the pulley to make it concaved as you suggest. Never had any problem with the belt coming off after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldeLcVnpJY[/quote]

I like that self powered bailer, I'm guessing that the bales are tied off by hand with steel wire? An old chap once told me about bales tied with wire but I'd never seen it done before. I guess you have to take care with timing as you feed the hay/straw in at the top, get it wrong and you've a snapped pikel or worse the handle could smack you in the chin and bring a tear or two to the eyes 😞

Julian.
Bill, have you been working the 955 or does the bucket have a fancy silver paint job?
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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:16 AM
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Very nice photos! Smooth operation. Under steam, how many hp does the Russell have? GWH


George, She has that machine up to 66.5 HP now. She has done numerous HI-Performance mods to it – including her own secret piston rings. The biggest gains came from repositioning crank shaft and the steam chest porting & timing. Turn up the sound: http://www.youtube.com/user/billglenn10?feature=mhee#p/u/35/fEgQrnnyrXc
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Bill, have you been working the 955 or does the bucket have a fancy silver paint job?


Mike, The silver paint is still there - it's just that I haven't cleaned the bucket since the last time I was digging. I do touch it up once in a while though.
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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:45 AM
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Reply to dpendzic:
I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?
[quote="dpendzic"]I still can't believe how those traction tractors can run a 30 ft long belt and not have it wip and fly off!! :jaw:

Watching Andrea power that threshing machine was truly awesome! I guess the belt alignment and tension is critical?[/quote]

dpendzic, Tension is critical because she doesn't want to slip & damage her $1,200.00 belt. Alignment is also important with those large diameter pulleys on a traction engine. The belts walk off easier on large diameter pulleys.
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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:50 AM
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