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Does anyone have experience or rebuilding Cat Ten or similar track rollers?
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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 2:52 AM
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Sure, what is your question?
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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 4:17 AM
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Reply to WyoCat:
Sure, what is your question?
Would you use a hydraulic press to remove and install the bushings in track rollers?
To lubricate rollers for operation use 10-40, 20-50 or heavier oil as manual says use crankcase oil?
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Fri, Dec 5, 2014 5:32 AM
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Would you use a hydraulic press to remove and install the bushings in track rollers?
To lubricate rollers for operation use 10-40, 20-50 or heavier oil as manual says use crankcase oil?
You planning on making all new bushings?
Its easier to bore them out, then make bigger shafts.
A press will take them out with no problem.
I've had some that almost dropped out and a few that need to be pushed the whole way.

As far as lubricant, most guys use a sticky semi-fluid lubricant to lube rollers.
Reason is that the Lube Schedule for that machine, I believe was lube Rollers every 10 hours of operation, Maybe 20?
They don't have good Seals so the frequent lubrication would push dirt out while oil leaked out.
As an example I have a Twenty-Two manual that states use 90W Trans Oil in the Rollers.
All these machines are now collectors, so you don't want Motor oil or Trans oil leaking on your floor, trailer and some Show grounds just because the Manual stated to use Motor oil!
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Fri, Dec 5, 2014 7:55 PM
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Reply to drujinin:
You planning on making all new bushings?
Its easier to bore them out, then make bigger shafts.
A press will take them out with no problem.
I've had some that almost dropped out and a few that need to be pushed the whole way.

As far as lubricant, most guys use a sticky semi-fluid lubricant to lube rollers.
Reason is that the Lube Schedule for that machine, I believe was lube Rollers every 10 hours of operation, Maybe 20?
They don't have good Seals so the frequent lubrication would push dirt out while oil leaked out.
As an example I have a Twenty-Two manual that states use 90W Trans Oil in the Rollers.
All these machines are now collectors, so you don't want Motor oil or Trans oil leaking on your floor, trailer and some Show grounds just because the Manual stated to use Motor oil!
I agree 100% with drujinin,

Have the rollers bored out to a common size and then have over sized shafts made. Because the old shafts will be worn and defeat the purpose of having new bushings made alone.

I use Shell Alvania 000 semi fluid grease. Works great and provides much better impact and shock protection than motor oil ever could.

(looks like Alvania is no longer available. Gadus is replacement)

http://qclubricants.com/aeroshell/alvaniaep00.htm

Pat
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Fri, Dec 5, 2014 10:42 PM
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Reply to Pat in WI:
I agree 100% with drujinin,

Have the rollers bored out to a common size and then have over sized shafts made. Because the old shafts will be worn and defeat the purpose of having new bushings made alone.

I use Shell Alvania 000 semi fluid grease. Works great and provides much better impact and shock protection than motor oil ever could.

(looks like Alvania is no longer available. Gadus is replacement)

http://qclubricants.com/aeroshell/alvaniaep00.htm

Pat
Hehe, to avoid ground water and soil contamination here in California... may have to use bio-degradable or plant based lubricant here in the future!

Thanks for the recommendation for the Shell product. I will visit our fuel distributor this afternoon.

("looks like Alvania is no longer available. Gadus is replacement)

http://qclubricants.com/aeroshell/alvaniaep00.htm

Pat "
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Tue, Dec 9, 2014 4:58 AM
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Hehe, to avoid ground water and soil contamination here in California... may have to use bio-degradable or plant based lubricant here in the future!

Thanks for the recommendation for the Shell product. I will visit our fuel distributor this afternoon.

("looks like Alvania is no longer available. Gadus is replacement)

http://qclubricants.com/aeroshell/alvaniaep00.htm

Pat "
Will plan on making a proposal to owner for new pins to be fabricate in near future to match bored out bushings.

Presently will reassemble rollers and tracks for repainting to Cat grey from Highway yellow.

I will point out to him that this will put wear on the end caps since there is an average 3mm gap (between pin and bushing) on one side of each of the 4 rollers.
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Tue, Dec 9, 2014 5:10 AM
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