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Really need help moving a big scraper from NV to KS

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We have been trying to find a scraper for many months now to get going on our pond projects in Central KS. We finally found a decent enough scraper but moving it is simply ridiculous!! Pretty frustrating since we really need to get going on our job and only held up by the scraper right now. Just curious if anyone has any independent trucker leads or has advise? We listed on Uship but that is not working out either. This is a 1300 trip and though if there were truckers running out of S CA, we would work something out. We have flexibility so catching a back haul or something is paramount. Just cannot afford to pay all the fat for the brokers and big chains.
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:46 AM
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What are you trying to move and what prices have you been quoted.
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 3:55 AM
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What are you trying to move and what prices have you been quoted.
This is a 633 and lets just say most prices are north of 10K. At that rate and anything even close to it, I would just have to pass and move on. I am not trying to beat on the profession but I think we are getting into robbery territory.
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:05 AM
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This is a 633 and lets just say most prices are north of 10K. At that rate and anything even close to it, I would just have to pass and move on. I am not trying to beat on the profession but I think we are getting into robbery territory.
Permits for several states, different load laws in each state, fuel tax requirements, restricted highways, restrict driving hours, $5+ per mile = $6500+. Then for a rig like that finding a load back, slim so $2+ per mile empty = $2600....pretty soon you're knocking on $10K or better.
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 7:25 AM
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Permits for several states, different load laws in each state, fuel tax requirements, restricted highways, restrict driving hours, $5+ per mile = $6500+. Then for a rig like that finding a load back, slim so $2+ per mile empty = $2600....pretty soon you're knocking on $10K or better.
You better start to look for something abit closer to home.Before I retired some 5years ago and we were still moving our scrapers it was a $1000 plus day before we have one moved,that was before the DOT ----heads would get ahold of us.You will need a permit in every state you go through for both width and weight.Who ever you get to make this move make damm sure they axle weight themselves because you don't want to find you scraper sitting alone the highway half way home. Good Luck,Mike Durkin
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 9:29 AM
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You better start to look for something abit closer to home.Before I retired some 5years ago and we were still moving our scrapers it was a $1000 plus day before we have one moved,that was before the DOT ----heads would get ahold of us.You will need a permit in every state you go through for both width and weight.Who ever you get to make this move make damm sure they axle weight themselves because you don't want to find you scraper sitting alone the highway half way home. Good Luck,Mike Durkin
Just a quick search says it would weigh north of 100,000 lbs, 13' wide, 13'9* high. Not something you can just run up on a lowboy and take off. I couldn't do it with a 3 axle trailer and a 4 axle tractor. To move something that big, you are looking at trailers with jeeps and stingers, probably flag vehicles, super load permits, none of which are cheap. That doesn't mean you can't find a jockey somewhere that will load it on his 2 axle lowboy and take off, for a few thousand; Just my opinion, but you generally get what you pay for. good luck with it,
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 9:48 AM
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Just a quick search says it would weigh north of 100,000 lbs, 13' wide, 13'9* high. Not something you can just run up on a lowboy and take off. I couldn't do it with a 3 axle trailer and a 4 axle tractor. To move something that big, you are looking at trailers with jeeps and stingers, probably flag vehicles, super load permits, none of which are cheap. That doesn't mean you can't find a jockey somewhere that will load it on his 2 axle lowboy and take off, for a few thousand; Just my opinion, but you generally get what you pay for. good luck with it,
Hey fastline,

D4e on the BB has a lowbed company. PM him and ask for a price. He is a square shooter. I agree, that you need to find something closer. Transporting big iron isn't cheap. The $10,000 doesn't shock me. D4e can tell you which specialized trailer and combo you would need to get it there. As others have stated, once you get into special permits, pilots, and special hours, the price goes up. The big stuff you can't just boot leg.-glen
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:13 AM
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Just a quick search says it would weigh north of 100,000 lbs, 13' wide, 13'9* high. Not something you can just run up on a lowboy and take off. I couldn't do it with a 3 axle trailer and a 4 axle tractor. To move something that big, you are looking at trailers with jeeps and stingers, probably flag vehicles, super load permits, none of which are cheap. That doesn't mean you can't find a jockey somewhere that will load it on his 2 axle lowboy and take off, for a few thousand; Just my opinion, but you generally get what you pay for. good luck with it,
I have done some moving and looked up some permits and such. NO pilot needed if it stays on the interstates, which it can. Weights everyone has been pointing to is from Richie and that is for a 633D. I have one guy that said he scaled his at 90K. I will agree that is quite different from the book weight of 84K. Even adding fluids, I don't get it. Weight will be the critical factor for this move. Looks like KS is the bottleneck at 65K load limit over a quad trailer.

Still trying to verify weights but looks like a quad trailer can get it done. I realize what folks are saying about the expense. I just felt that 18k was pretty much a hail marry pass from the 5 yard line. 10K still seems that people are just putting a huge buffer in there even though the actual permits don't cost that much and 1200 in fuel will cover the move. I guess others have to eat too...:jaw:
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:19 AM
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I have done some moving and looked up some permits and such. NO pilot needed if it stays on the interstates, which it can. Weights everyone has been pointing to is from Richie and that is for a 633D. I have one guy that said he scaled his at 90K. I will agree that is quite different from the book weight of 84K. Even adding fluids, I don't get it. Weight will be the critical factor for this move. Looks like KS is the bottleneck at 65K load limit over a quad trailer.

Still trying to verify weights but looks like a quad trailer can get it done. I realize what folks are saying about the expense. I just felt that 18k was pretty much a hail marry pass from the 5 yard line. 10K still seems that people are just putting a huge buffer in there even though the actual permits don't cost that much and 1200 in fuel will cover the move. I guess others have to eat too...:jaw:
$1200 one way, double it to get back. 4@12 hr days(two there and two back) x $175= $8400 plus permits and getting to the starting point and back from the starting point. Sounds about right, $10,000, but get some qoutes.-glen
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:39 AM
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$1200 one way, double it to get back. 4@12 hr days(two there and two back) x $175= $8400 plus permits and getting to the starting point and back from the starting point. Sounds about right, $10,000, but get some qoutes.-glen
I guess that is where I differ. I doubt anyone would run a rig like that all the way home unloaded. Every time I have moved stuff, I have paid a loaded mile. Probably a lot of people that pay for that ride home while the driver double dips and cashes in.

However, you did give me an idea since I know someone in the area there, and I know a dispatcher here that moves loads that way. Maybe I can score a guy a haul home!
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Tue, Jul 24, 2012 11:55 AM
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I guess that is where I differ. I doubt anyone would run a rig like that all the way home unloaded. Every time I have moved stuff, I have paid a loaded mile. Probably a lot of people that pay for that ride home while the driver double dips and cashes in.

However, you did give me an idea since I know someone in the area there, and I know a dispatcher here that moves loads that way. Maybe I can score a guy a haul home!
The problem is when you haul with specialized lowbeds, what's the odds that some one, the very same day, is going to need that special trailer, to haul an identical load, going back the other way, with no lay over. Good luck-glen
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