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newd6
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Gentlemen,

At last I have my D2. As of my last post I was debating over it's purchase for 1500. Dennie and OG were helping me figure out if it was worth the money. Turns out it wasn't worth the 1500 so I got this one for 1100 (the other one was much nicer but was sold out from under me but got this as a consolation prize). It may still not have been worth it but I had the fever. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

But this incarnation of a D2 is still not steering left which brings me to my overall question. My D6 9u being a different Rotweiler vs this pitbull ๐Ÿ˜–mile:
I have what will seem and is a very remedial question. Having read most of anything on D2 on this board I appologize if I have missed anything already posted but..... can someone please explain to me the difference between what the use of the brake pedals (l/R) are and steering clutches are for.... :noidea:
Seriously as a novis I am a bit confused as to what the purpose of each is as my D2 turns just fine(damn hard actually) to the right but nothing to the left not with brake pedal down and lever pulled back. Now never having torn into the D6 nor this D2 I really have no idea of the problems or fixes short of what you all ahve suggested for stuck steering clutches etc. I am busy at this point getting manuals etc for the D2 so I can go through them to figure out terminology and location of various items but..........
So as I learned from my D6 trials the left stick works underload(pushing pulling etc) so no need for the brake but is it the same for the D2. So if I have no left turn on brake and none on sitck am I messed on two front or are they the same?

Given that the stick releases clutch (power) and brake stops side L/R depending on where you turn if the cat doesn't stop with L brake and no turning either then we may have 2 problems to fix? :jaw:

As was also stated by you guys one can get around by simply turning and backing up etc etc.. ๐Ÿ˜†

So I can do all i need but long term and having never torn ito either the D6 or this D2 it seams for my purposes at this time I can run her good and then either start a teardown or find someone that can help me with it.

I will get you guys picts so you can see the scope of my dispare :Cry:

Undercarriage in disarray, and dirty to beat the band. But it starts on the pony and once I got the ether away from the previous owner I have never needed it again as I think he though the pony was just to turn the thing over. :censored:

But it runs really well despite the dirt and grime and turns right hard. I will clean it up with the pressure washer this weekend or next but hernia surgery preventing me from doing too much more for a little while after that.

As an aside and since I have no numbers for you yet what is the difference between the cats with the side tanks and the ones on the rear of the seat.? I am assuming the side tank models are much older cats? Can one go find a rear tank set up and add it to one that has the side tank? As you guessed I have a side tank model.

Also, there is no shut down for the pony short of turnign off the fuel source. I read where there should be a magneto cut off switch, is this true? Not that it is a problem to turn off the fuel but asking because if I ever put it right I want to be correct. Lastly, anything to look out for on the pony? It starts right up so nothing wrong but as far as oil changes fills etc? The D6 was converted to direct start so it is of no help to me and nothing learned there.

I would love all the input and expertise as well as criticism you can give and I will continue to read all of and any info on the discussion as well as the manuals when I get them.

thanks in advance,

Tom
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Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:41 AM
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Tom, congrats on the D2๐Ÿ‘ I'm far from an expert on these machines but I'll give you a few thoughts on what I've learned over the last year and 1/2. First the steering clutch handle and brake are used together to turn, once I got used to the amount of pressure to step on the brake and pull on the handle the machine turns very smoothly. My right hand clutch will not work and It now will be a winter teardown, I've tried soaking in everything but scotch and it still will not break loose, I have a feeling the link between the steering lever and steering clutch is broken. For the time being I adjust my direction moving back. A pain in tight places but it works for now.
My pony has a fuel shutoff and Mag shutoff switch I'll try and get a picture of what they look like and post later.
The little machine is a worker and extremely handy for work where the bigger machines don't fit. My D2 is not addicted to ether, the only time I gave her a shot was on the initial start up after rebuild. Once the pony has her warmed up it starts easy.
Good luck, keep asking questions, someone on here always has an answer
Dennie๐Ÿ˜†
Restored 1970 ford tractor,1931 Model A PU streetrod, lifted 1978 F150, 1971 VW bug, antique chain saws
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Fri, Jun 4, 2010 6:24 PM
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Tom, congrats on the D2๐Ÿ‘ I'm far from an expert on these machines but I'll give you a few thoughts on what I've learned over the last year and 1/2. First the steering clutch handle and brake are used together to turn, once I got used to the amount of pressure to step on the brake and pull on the handle the machine turns very smoothly. My right hand clutch will not work and It now will be a winter teardown, I've tried soaking in everything but scotch and it still will not break loose, I have a feeling the link between the steering lever and steering clutch is broken. For the time being I adjust my direction moving back. A pain in tight places but it works for now.
My pony has a fuel shutoff and Mag shutoff switch I'll try and get a picture of what they look like and post later.
The little machine is a worker and extremely handy for work where the bigger machines don't fit. My D2 is not addicted to ether, the only time I gave her a shot was on the initial start up after rebuild. Once the pony has her warmed up it starts easy.
Good luck, keep asking questions, someone on here always has an answer
Dennie๐Ÿ˜†
Tom, first and foremost: Don't count on the oil being any good, particularly in the pony if you have been cutting the mag to shut it off. The proper way to turn off the pony is to turn off the fuel. If you do not, the gravity fed tank will continue to feed fuel to the motor while it is off and eventually leak into the pony crankcase and dilute the oil. There are 2 fuel shut-offs. One on the pinion/clutch side and one right under the fuel tank with the fuel strainer. Turning off the fuel where the pinion and clutch are located is sufficeint if you plan on starting it again soon. If you leave it for any length of time, I recommend shutting both off. Once the diesel is started, shut off the fuel and allow the pony to run the carb dry.

Undercarraiges are going to be dirty. If it has been idle for any time, it will also get rusty. If you have no frozen links, then the rust will wear off once you start using it. If you operate in heavy mud or sticky dirt, it is a good idea to shovel them out at the end of the day, but as the saying goes, "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs." The UC is meant to get dirty.

Steering a D2 or a D6 is accomplished the same way. The steering clutch lever is pulled first to execute a turn, then the steering brake applied with the steering clutch pulled back. Applying the brake without the steering clutch will just wearout the brake prematurely. Once you get the operators manual, you will read how to properly steer under different conditions. Downhill, you apply the opposite clutch to steer because the clutched side free-wheels and turns faster (To turn left going downhill, pull back on the right steering clutch). You will engine brake the left track (like downshifting a vehicle) while the free wheeling side is allowed to roll. When pushing (or pulling) a load, often times, you won't need the brake because the load provides the resistance. To turn left under load, pull back on the left steer clutch. It disengages power to the left side and allows the powered track to turn the machine to the left. If it doesn't turn enough, then you apply the left brake, but sparingly.

Good luck with the machines.
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Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:23 PM
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