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d50dave
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What would you guys recommend for treating modern, low sulfur Diesel fuel in early model Diesels. I have a Diesel Forty and a Diesel Fifty and I haul them on a truck with a 1975 model 6-71 Detroit engine. I usually dump in a can of treatment when I fuel up the truck. I think I usually use the Siloo product or whatever is available. I've never had any trouble with the 6-71 for a long time now, but it doesn't get too many miles on it. Thanks for any help. Dave
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Fri, May 13, 2011 10:02 AM
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I have several old diesel engines and equipment dating back to 1938,I use stabil and 1 oz. per gallon 2 cycle oil. Works fine so far, 2 cycle oil lubricates and is desighned to burn. Wall Mart has it for around 11.00 dollars A gallon,and its made in the U.S.A.
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Fri, May 13, 2011 10:38 AM
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I have several old diesel engines and equipment dating back to 1938,I use stabil and 1 oz. per gallon 2 cycle oil. Works fine so far, 2 cycle oil lubricates and is desighned to burn. Wall Mart has it for around 11.00 dollars A gallon,and its made in the U.S.A.
I'm a Power Service user, no particular reason other than I've always done it that way!👋
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Fri, May 13, 2011 12:06 PM
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I'm a Power Service user, no particular reason other than I've always done it that way!👋
Be careful what you use for an additive for an on-road truck, if you "DOT'ed", they may/will dip your tank looking for off-road diesel. I do repair jobs on various on-road trucks and each owner has some various "snake-oil" in the tool box that he thinks is great and is always willing to give you a "sample". Power Service and one called "Lubricator" in a yellow jug comes to mind. I usually dump whatever they offer in my off-road bulk tank.
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Fri, May 13, 2011 5:58 PM
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Be careful what you use for an additive for an on-road truck, if you "DOT'ed", they may/will dip your tank looking for off-road diesel. I do repair jobs on various on-road trucks and each owner has some various "snake-oil" in the tool box that he thinks is great and is always willing to give you a "sample". Power Service and one called "Lubricator" in a yellow jug comes to mind. I usually dump whatever they offer in my off-road bulk tank.
For the off road stuff, I use two stroke oil as an additive, usually about a quart per ten gallons of diesel. For winter use, I use half and half, diesel and heating oil plus the two stroke oil.
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Fri, May 13, 2011 8:07 PM
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For the off road stuff, I use two stroke oil as an additive, usually about a quart per ten gallons of diesel. For winter use, I use half and half, diesel and heating oil plus the two stroke oil.
I use power service in my fuel--home heating oil---its supposed to increase lubrication, raise the cetane level, and clean the injectors. :rolleyes2:
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Fri, May 13, 2011 8:16 PM
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I use power service in my fuel--home heating oil---its supposed to increase lubrication, raise the cetane level, and clean the injectors. :rolleyes2:
Back to the original question: Can you clarify if you are using new on-road, low sulfer diesel in your old machines? Or do you have off road (red)? I know some areas are now required to sell off road (red) diesel in low-sulfer edition. I'm not sure if furnace oil has that distinction yet.
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Fri, May 13, 2011 8:25 PM
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Back to the original question: Can you clarify if you are using new on-road, low sulfer diesel in your old machines? Or do you have off road (red)? I know some areas are now required to sell off road (red) diesel in low-sulfer edition. I'm not sure if furnace oil has that distinction yet.
B4D2 Thanks for the post. I use off-road fuel in the old Cats and on-road fuel in the 6-71. I never have treated the off-road but I usually dump in some treatment into the on-road fuel. Do you think the red, off-road fuel is higher sulfur content than on-road. You mentioned that you thought some new, off-road fuel may be low sulfur and that wouldn't surprise me. I probably should be putting something in the fuel for the old Cats to increase lubrication. Also, that was interesting what drujinin said about some fuel additives getting a guy in trouble with the DOT. --No limit to the ways you can get in trouble these days, I guess.
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Fri, May 13, 2011 10:19 PM
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Be careful what you use for an additive for an on-road truck, if you "DOT'ed", they may/will dip your tank looking for off-road diesel. I do repair jobs on various on-road trucks and each owner has some various "snake-oil" in the tool box that he thinks is great and is always willing to give you a "sample". Power Service and one called "Lubricator" in a yellow jug comes to mind. I usually dump whatever they offer in my off-road bulk tank.


I have a Mercedes diesel wagon; in California they can't check your passenger car fuel like a truck which must have commercial plates. Still, I haven't had a justifiable reason to buy red diesel until I got my D2, but its still not worth having money tied up in large quanities of fuel for my small usage
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Sat, May 14, 2011 12:00 AM
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I have a Mercedes diesel wagon; in California they can't check your passenger car fuel like a truck which must have commercial plates. Still, I haven't had a justifiable reason to buy red diesel until I got my D2, but its still not worth having money tied up in large quanities of fuel for my small usage
Don't kid yourself that red diesel is any better than road diesel. I understand in most states it is exactly the same stuff with the red dye in it so it can be sold without road taxes.

I add 1 qt of non-detergent 30 W oil to ten gallons of diesel. I will use 40 W when I can get it.

I try to get some in the Cats but they are more forgiving, they are designed to run on anything. I am particularly religious about treating the VW diesels and 6.9 Ford. There is so much going on in those rotary pumps, they need all the lubrication they can get.

My thinking is the additives in ATF may not be good for injection pump seals. Diesels are made to run on oil, diesel oil, motor oil as long as it is thin enough to go through the system

Tom
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Sat, May 14, 2011 1:24 AM
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Don't kid yourself that red diesel is any better than road diesel. I understand in most states it is exactly the same stuff with the red dye in it so it can be sold without road taxes.

I add 1 qt of non-detergent 30 W oil to ten gallons of diesel. I will use 40 W when I can get it.

I try to get some in the Cats but they are more forgiving, they are designed to run on anything. I am particularly religious about treating the VW diesels and 6.9 Ford. There is so much going on in those rotary pumps, they need all the lubrication they can get.

My thinking is the additives in ATF may not be good for injection pump seals. Diesels are made to run on oil, diesel oil, motor oil as long as it is thin enough to go through the system

Tom
When the Fuel truck stops here to deliver my often daily $10,000 of "Off-Road Diesel" he will often have just made a few "Home Heating Oil" stops on the way. I inquired into this issue of quality about 10 years ago. Seems that back in the old days, there was a difference between Home Heating Oil and Off-Road Diesel. Not any more in this area due to lack of supply and demand. The fuel that is delivered here is Low Sulfer, I would need to pull the records but I am reasonably certain, it isn't "Ultra-Low" yet?
The stuff in the yellow jug is "Howes Lubricator"
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