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I am looking forward to getting my D2 up and running after it's long sleep. I have drained all the old diesel from the tank and line to the pump. replaced fuel filters and flushed filter compartment. The bleeder valves on the filter compartment are easily accessible. My question is what tool works best to open the bleeders at each injector ?. cant get much swing on a 1/4 inch open end wrench. The operator manual shows a technician using what looks like an allen wrench. Is there a special tool or is it what ever works?

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Art
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 8:08 AM
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there's a special wrench, and likely a special socket available, but I think the best idea I have heard is to squeeze a 1/4" drive socket in a vise until it fits the head of the bleed screw. Then you can use whatever extensions etc are needed to reach in there. I believe about a 5/16" socket would be about right. I usually just bleed the injector lines at the injectors, but have had those bleeders come loose and have to be tightened.
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 8:59 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
there's a special wrench, and likely a special socket available, but I think the best idea I have heard is to squeeze a 1/4" drive socket in a vise until it fits the head of the bleed screw. Then you can use whatever extensions etc are needed to reach in there. I believe about a 5/16" socket would be about right. I usually just bleed the injector lines at the injectors, but have had those bleeders come loose and have to be tightened.
Yes you will need a special wrench to open those bleeders on the pumps. Make or buy. You will never be able to properly bleed the system unless you open those bleeders. I usually start with the one at the rear and work forward.
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 9:55 AM
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Yes you will need a special wrench to open those bleeders on the pumps. Make or buy. You will never be able to properly bleed the system unless you open those bleeders. I usually start with the one at the rear and work forward.
You can save a lot of priming headache if you pressurize the fuel tank with air to push the fuel through the system. I use a 4" (I think) rubber pipe cap with a valve stem installed in it. No clamps, I just push it on the fill cap threads at the tank so if I over pressure it pushes off the tank. Only takes a couple of pounds of air to bleed the whole system and saves a lot of pony cranking.
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 7:00 PM
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You can save a lot of priming headache if you pressurize the fuel tank with air to push the fuel through the system. I use a 4" (I think) rubber pipe cap with a valve stem installed in it. No clamps, I just push it on the fill cap threads at the tank so if I over pressure it pushes off the tank. Only takes a couple of pounds of air to bleed the whole system and saves a lot of pony cranking.


that is a good suggestion, i also have cut out the valve stem from an old inner tube to do the same thing.
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 7:31 PM
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that is a good suggestion, i also have cut out the valve stem from an old inner tube to do the same thing.
The socket is still available from CAT, fits on a 1/4" drive ratchet.
Definitely do the air pressure trick first, saves lots of headaches!
Make it pour out of each bleed point, don't be cheap!
More that comes through, less air to cause heartaches when finally starting on the pony!
There are some lengthy Threads on this subject also.
If I get a chance to look at the Socket tonight, I'll post the part number if you are interested.
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 8:24 PM
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The socket is still available from CAT, fits on a 1/4" drive ratchet.
Definitely do the air pressure trick first, saves lots of headaches!
Make it pour out of each bleed point, don't be cheap!
More that comes through, less air to cause heartaches when finally starting on the pony!
There are some lengthy Threads on this subject also.
If I get a chance to look at the Socket tonight, I'll post the part number if you are interested.
Thanks everyone for the different ideas. I never would have thought of pressurizing the system with air. makes a whole lot of sense though.
This is the sort of insight that makes this sight so invaluable. But I should remember to check the archives first.
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Art
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 10:35 PM
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Reply to old-iron-habit:
You can save a lot of priming headache if you pressurize the fuel tank with air to push the fuel through the system. I use a 4" (I think) rubber pipe cap with a valve stem installed in it. No clamps, I just push it on the fill cap threads at the tank so if I over pressure it pushes off the tank. Only takes a couple of pounds of air to bleed the whole system and saves a lot of pony cranking.


Now that is a damn good idea!
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 10:55 PM
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The socket is still available from CAT, fits on a 1/4" drive ratchet.
Definitely do the air pressure trick first, saves lots of headaches!
Make it pour out of each bleed point, don't be cheap!
More that comes through, less air to cause heartaches when finally starting on the pony!
There are some lengthy Threads on this subject also.
If I get a chance to look at the Socket tonight, I'll post the part number if you are interested.
[quote="drujinin"]The socket is still available from CAT, fits on a 1/4" drive ratchet.
Definitely do the air pressure trick first, saves lots of headaches!
Make it pour out of each bleed point, don't be cheap!
More that comes through, less air to cause heartaches when finally starting on the pony!
There are some lengthy Threads on this subject also.
If I get a chance to look at the Socket tonight, I'll post the part number if you are interested.[/quote]

Please do!

Greg
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Tue, Jul 29, 2014 10:55 PM
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[quote="drujinin"]The socket is still available from CAT, fits on a 1/4" drive ratchet.
Definitely do the air pressure trick first, saves lots of headaches!
Make it pour out of each bleed point, don't be cheap!
More that comes through, less air to cause heartaches when finally starting on the pony!
There are some lengthy Threads on this subject also.
If I get a chance to look at the Socket tonight, I'll post the part number if you are interested.[/quote]

Please do!

Greg
I always used a Snap-on shock absorber socket, number A137. It goes on a 3/8 drive. It was used to hold the top stud on a front shock absorber on your car or truck while you tighten the locknut. Probably will be cheaper going with a Cat socket than paying Snap-on's high prices

George
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Wed, Jul 30, 2014 12:25 AM
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I always used a Snap-on shock absorber socket, number A137. It goes on a 3/8 drive. It was used to hold the top stud on a front shock absorber on your car or truck while you tighten the locknut. Probably will be cheaper going with a Cat socket than paying Snap-on's high prices

George
See attached my picture trail link with bleeder. Inspired by cc jersey 7 or 8 years ago. Also, not sure if you lost fuel in your tower but fill that too. I'm guessing you changed the filters there since you drained tank. Pretty inexpensive from NAPA.

Good Luck!

http://www.picturetrail.com/uid6748227
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