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Barely Smokin
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You know those galvanized rods that secure telephone pole guy wires to the ground? The ones that have an eye molded into the end?

My neighbor uncovered one in his field when he plowed the other day. It was still securely stuck in the ground and had about 6 feet of galvanized cable attached to it. He was worried that he would hit it later with his cultivator, get it caught, and flip his tractor.

I told him I'd take my JD front end loader out there and lift it out for him. I tried and my rubber-tired loader wouldn't budge it.

I thought, well, I'll take my D4 out there and it'll pull right out, surely.

I chained the rod over my winch drum (no cable for it yet). When I pulled forward, my dozer started to rotate skyward. Tried several times, same result. I tried pulling from the other direction---same result.

Next, I lowered my blade directly over the rod, chained it, and then lifted straight up. It merely lifted the rear of the dozer off the ground. I was stunned.

Finally, after several attempts----WHAM!!! I thought for sure the chain snapped. Instead, the galvanized rod itself stretched, then snapped.

I can't imagine the force required to do that. I also can't believe that sucker didn't pull out of the ground first. WOW!
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Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:31 PM
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Good thing it was "old" and "deteriorated." This is probably what you are dealing with http://www.macleanpower.com/products/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2071 If it was augered into hardpan or dense clay, good luck. Next time (if there is one), try digging down a bit. You might even be able to "un-auger" it and reuse it to hold the barn down in the event of a tornado 🙄
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Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:44 AM
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Good thing it was "old" and "deteriorated." This is probably what you are dealing with http://www.macleanpower.com/products/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2071 If it was augered into hardpan or dense clay, good luck. Next time (if there is one), try digging down a bit. You might even be able to "un-auger" it and reuse it to hold the barn down in the event of a tornado 🙄
If you take 20 of them out of the ground, 10 will unscrew out, 4 will spin because they were pulled hard enough to flatten the screw part so it won't unscrew itself, 4 will spin because the weldment broke on the sheet metal screw and 2 will break down below.
We found it easier to take the backhoe and dig down to get them out.
They are in about 3 & 1/2 feet if I remember right.
I remember once there was a Utility truck down over the bank and it rained so he couldn't get up to the road. The truck up by the road could not hold him on the winch. Finally he swings the drill around and screws in a 12 inch anchor that was used on the high poles. Hooking the winch line on that they were able to winch out the stuck truck.
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Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:20 AM
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If you take 20 of them out of the ground, 10 will unscrew out, 4 will spin because they were pulled hard enough to flatten the screw part so it won't unscrew itself, 4 will spin because the weldment broke on the sheet metal screw and 2 will break down below.
We found it easier to take the backhoe and dig down to get them out.
They are in about 3 & 1/2 feet if I remember right.
I remember once there was a Utility truck down over the bank and it rained so he couldn't get up to the road. The truck up by the road could not hold him on the winch. Finally he swings the drill around and screws in a 12 inch anchor that was used on the high poles. Hooking the winch line on that they were able to winch out the stuck truck.
I have put in many of them. There are a couple of different styles, Some screw in and others expand at the bottom of the hole. I can't remember the rated strength but we always used 60,00 lbs tensile strength cable attached to them.
Just dig down and cut it off with a torch or a grinder. You can do it with a hacksaw too, but it is more work.

Goodluck

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Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:46 AM
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I have put in many of them. There are a couple of different styles, Some screw in and others expand at the bottom of the hole. I can't remember the rated strength but we always used 60,00 lbs tensile strength cable attached to them.
Just dig down and cut it off with a torch or a grinder. You can do it with a hacksaw too, but it is more work.

Goodluck

Biggastractor
biggastractor beat me to it we dig 2 feet down then cut them off with a zip wheel on a grinder.
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