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Pony popped a valve guide keeper

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snowshoveler
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The D6 9U was parked for a month or 3 while I was cleaning and painting it. You know one of those 10 20 paint jobs.
Anyway when I re assembled it I had trouble getting the pony to run well enough to start the main.
No compression on 1 side. Figgured I hung up a valve. Sorta did I guess, the keeper came off the valve guide.
Not a bad job to get things apart and I have all the gaskets here.
Any idea why this happened. I have new guides, valves and keepers. They came with my genset spares.
Pony looks to be in good shape other than a bit of crud in some of the coolant passages.
Regards Chris
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Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:36 AM
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Hi SS,
MMmm, can only think that the engine sat with that valve in the open position and the guide and valve seized/stuck together during the time of inaction.
When you tried to start the engine if the guide was loose enough in the block, compression could push the valve and guide back when the follower cam off the cam lobe allowing the retainer to turn and come out of its groove.
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Eddie B.
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Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:09 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi SS,
MMmm, can only think that the engine sat with that valve in the open position and the guide and valve seized/stuck together during the time of inaction.
When you tried to start the engine if the guide was loose enough in the block, compression could push the valve and guide back when the follower cam off the cam lobe allowing the retainer to turn and come out of its groove.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Are the guides a press fit in the block?
This guide seemed to move without much difficulty.
Could try a new one I guess if you think I should.
Regards Chris
193? d4400 cat powerunit
1950 john deere M
1959 international t5 crawler
1977 powerking 1216 tractor
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Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:32 AM
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Are the guides a press fit in the block?
This guide seemed to move without much difficulty.
Could try a new one I guess if you think I should.
Regards Chris
Read many many pages about pony engines and it seems that the valve guide (bushing) does just slide in.
So feeling okay about things I re assembled the pony and filled up the coolant. Started it and runs fine. Easily starte the main engine now.
All said its not a hard thing to work on. Some parts are a little heavy but managable.
Regards Chris
193? d4400 cat powerunit
1950 john deere M
1959 international t5 crawler
1977 powerking 1216 tractor
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Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:35 PM
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Reply to snowshoveler:
Read many many pages about pony engines and it seems that the valve guide (bushing) does just slide in.
So feeling okay about things I re assembled the pony and filled up the coolant. Started it and runs fine. Easily starte the main engine now.
All said its not a hard thing to work on. Some parts are a little heavy but managable.
Regards Chris
Hi SS,
the guides are a slide in fit, very much the same system as the old side valve Ford V8's except, the Cat ones are not split two piece guides.
Sounds good by your description of a re-vitalised pony.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Aug 15, 2013 1:02 PM
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