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VERY much seeking pix of a Holt 60 (1910-1913 preferably) looking at the bottom end of the engine with the pan removed but crank and rods in place. Other years/models would suffice.

If there is anyone planning on a full rebuild one of these engines in the very near future in the US themselves, and might be willing to tolerate a rather pesky fly on the wall for a historical fiction book project involving Holts (separate thread posted) , please advise.

Will reply to all messages and present additional details.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

"Blessed are the flexible for they shall not get bent out of shape."
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Wed, Feb 10, 2016 4:47 AM
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Hi Corbett,
I have a fuzzy picture from the Caterpillar General Instruction Book for Early Models.
The pix are poor quality--dark.
If I recall correctly the style of crankcase used is called a Marine Crankcase.
It is such that the crank is inserted in from one end. The main bearing caps are actually on top of the crankshaft and so the studs carry no weight in normal operation--over speed is another story.
I can post this pic and also one from my Best Thirty Parts Book as the design is the same.
As you will see the sump/pan does come off, but, the opening does not cover the entire base of the crankcase.
Alas, I do not have pix looking up from underneath, as you requested.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Feb 10, 2016 10:25 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Corbett,
I have a fuzzy picture from the Caterpillar General Instruction Book for Early Models.
The pix are poor quality--dark.
If I recall correctly the style of crankcase used is called a Marine Crankcase.
It is such that the crank is inserted in from one end. The main bearing caps are actually on top of the crankshaft and so the studs carry no weight in normal operation--over speed is another story.
I can post this pic and also one from my Best Thirty Parts Book as the design is the same.
As you will see the sump/pan does come off, but, the opening does not cover the entire base of the crankcase.
Alas, I do not have pix looking up from underneath, as you requested.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Feb 10, 2016 5:33 PM
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Reply to corbett:
Ask for and expect one thing, get another and my admitted ignorance is exposed. WONDERFUL!

The learning process begins.

THANK YOU!
Hi Corbett,
your students should have fun with finding out about the type of crankcase used on a lot of the Best and then early Cat engines, and the advantages of or not.

Corbett, in this industry even after 43 years at The Dealer and before and beyond I am still learning. It would be a sad day to have not learned something. I too am excited by the D7E being discussed else where here.
I was able to see one working alongside a old D8 that was running on about 5.5 cylinders--it was an impressive display.
Have not been able to find the video I was sent of some of the sand box adventures from a recent Lake Goldsmith Rally featuring Cat machinery.
Enjoy the journey.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Feb 11, 2016 6:01 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Corbett,
your students should have fun with finding out about the type of crankcase used on a lot of the Best and then early Cat engines, and the advantages of or not.

Corbett, in this industry even after 43 years at The Dealer and before and beyond I am still learning. It would be a sad day to have not learned something. I too am excited by the D7E being discussed else where here.
I was able to see one working alongside a old D8 that was running on about 5.5 cylinders--it was an impressive display.
Have not been able to find the video I was sent of some of the sand box adventures from a recent Lake Goldsmith Rally featuring Cat machinery.
Enjoy the journey.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
I have a few different pics of a 1915 Holt 60 that I did a rebuild on several years ago on my myspace page. They are listed here: myspace.com/vintageengine/photos , you will have to do a little bit of wading to see them all but hopefully it will help.
Mike
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Thu, Feb 11, 2016 11:12 PM
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Reply to Mike Mahler:
I have a few different pics of a 1915 Holt 60 that I did a rebuild on several years ago on my myspace page. They are listed here: myspace.com/vintageengine/photos , you will have to do a little bit of wading to see them all but hopefully it will help.
Mike
I have a 60 crank case, but I think it is newer as I think is a post Holt. No crank. The person I got it from told me he thought it was new old stock. I do not think so but?
I can shoot a couple of photos for you of it. No crank in it though.
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Fri, Feb 12, 2016 12:12 AM
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Reply to terrywelch_archive:
I have a 60 crank case, but I think it is newer as I think is a post Holt. No crank. The person I got it from told me he thought it was new old stock. I do not think so but?
I can shoot a couple of photos for you of it. No crank in it though.
I will take just about anything.

Going to start a new thread and explain further and broaden the spectrum a bit.

Thank you all.
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