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OT- V12 GMC Gas Engine

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Hutchy
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Hi Folks,
Interesting engine appeared here today, GMC V12 Gas engine. Apparently 702ish cubes most likely military. We were wondering what vintage and vehicle these were most likely to be found in and any other info. Sorry I don’t have any pics yet I’ll get them for you soon
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Mon, Sep 23, 2019 10:31 AM
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Hi, Hutchy.
I think they were mainly used in tanks. I have seen another article about them in the past and I think there may be a video on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfPFLQMbUM

In fact, there are several videos there. Enjoy.

Just my 0.02.
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Mon, Sep 23, 2019 11:46 AM
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Hi, Hutchy.
I think they were mainly used in tanks. I have seen another article about them in the past and I think there may be a video on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfPFLQMbUM

In fact, there are several videos there. Enjoy.

Just my 0.02.
Here’s a small article from an entertaining guy
King of Obsolete. Mostly international td6 and 9’s but he’s got a few Cats too
https://www.kingofobsolete.ca/V12_GMC_KoO_WEBSITE.htm
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Mon, Sep 23, 2019 5:03 PM
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Here’s a small article from an entertaining guy
King of Obsolete. Mostly international td6 and 9’s but he’s got a few Cats too
https://www.kingofobsolete.ca/V12_GMC_KoO_WEBSITE.htm
They were used in gmc crackerbox trucks https://youtu.be/puJaDfB4UFM if you scroll down in the descriptionsed in crackerbox and other gmc trucks i have read they could haul but hate to be fueling them at todays petrol prices lol
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Mon, Sep 23, 2019 5:58 PM
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They were used in gmc crackerbox trucks https://youtu.be/puJaDfB4UFM if you scroll down in the descriptionsed in crackerbox and other gmc trucks i have read they could haul but hate to be fueling them at todays petrol prices lol
Actually a very sought after engine, like it has been stated they were used in GM trucks and firetrucks. They are 2 v-6s joined up, beautiful sound and smooth as glass, big appetite. I am not sure if Seagrave used this engine or one of it's own.
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Mon, Sep 23, 2019 9:27 PM
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Actually a very sought after engine, like it has been stated they were used in GM trucks and firetrucks. They are 2 v-6s joined up, beautiful sound and smooth as glass, big appetite. I am not sure if Seagrave used this engine or one of it's own.
They used four heads from a V6. I know a guy who has/had one.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2019 1:28 AM
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They used four heads from a V6. I know a guy who has/had one.
had one in a farm truck many years ago. also had it's counterpart the V6. very good dependable simple engine.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2019 6:17 AM
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had one in a farm truck many years ago. also had it's counterpart the V6. very good dependable simple engine.
If I remember correctly, the GMC V-6's came with 305, 351, 401, and 478 cubic inch configurations. It sounds like the one you are talking about would be two 351's joined together. My dad had a 1965 GMC with the 305 CI in it. It wouldn't pass a service station without a need for gas and was not overwhelmed with power. A lot of the folks that had them often referred to them as boat anchors.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:31 AM
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If I remember correctly, the GMC V-6's came with 305, 351, 401, and 478 cubic inch configurations. It sounds like the one you are talking about would be two 351's joined together. My dad had a 1965 GMC with the 305 CI in it. It wouldn't pass a service station without a need for gas and was not overwhelmed with power. A lot of the folks that had them often referred to them as boat anchors.
If I am not mistaken GM turned that v-6 into the Toro Flow diesel, a dismal failure, but in their defense it was before turbo-charging became popular, they may have been something with a little push of air, with maybe a 71 series blower sitting on top, 5 or 6 pounds of boost goes a long ways. I don't know if they were a pre-cup engine or a DI engine, makes a big difference as well, modern bolts and gaskets would make a difference towards making power and longevity.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:39 PM
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If I am not mistaken GM turned that v-6 into the Toro Flow diesel, a dismal failure, but in their defense it was before turbo-charging became popular, they may have been something with a little push of air, with maybe a 71 series blower sitting on top, 5 or 6 pounds of boost goes a long ways. I don't know if they were a pre-cup engine or a DI engine, makes a big difference as well, modern bolts and gaskets would make a difference towards making power and longevity.
My dad was in the army in WWII. He was in the motor pool stateside. I don't know if it involved the GMC V-12s or another engine, but he said their job was to take the GMC engines out of brand-new tanks and put Ford engines in them.
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Wed, Sep 25, 2019 2:46 AM
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My dad was in the army in WWII. He was in the motor pool stateside. I don't know if it involved the GMC V-12s or another engine, but he said their job was to take the GMC engines out of brand-new tanks and put Ford engines in them.
The Ford engine put in tanks was the GAA 1100 cu in monster aluminum block V8 that actually started life as an aircraft V12, the desire for the V12 was not spent on the Ford so they dropped 4 cylinders and made it a v8 for tanks where it was really needed, they tried so many different engines in the Sherman including the 30 cylinder Chrysler A57 multi-bank that was made of 5 6-inline engines stacked around a common output shaft, a real nightmare. I would assume that the DD was a 6-71 low block of course, and they had radial Continentals built by Caterpillar if I remember correctly,maybe not? The Ford was very successful. I don't know how many of you remember Frank's Tractor wrecking out by the Tulare airport, I remember what I think was stacks of GAAs still in their shipping crates. I wouldn't mind a couple of them now.
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Wed, Sep 25, 2019 5:25 AM
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