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sdmuleman
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I've got a 70's Zieman 14k trailer running 7.50-15 tires on a 2 piece rim w/ 6 lug bolt pattern. I'd like to find another rim for a spare but have no clue where to even start. I believe to rim is a 6x15. Seems like all the 15" rims I've found are 1 piece drop center for radials which would work (assuming the bolt pattern is the standard 6 lug which I think it is) except they seem to only go up to about a 2500 lb tire vs 3250 for the 7.50-15s. Might work in an emergency, but I'd really like to find another proper rim.

Off topic, I know, but I figure if anyone will know where to find 40 year old rims this is it.

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Fri, Apr 8, 2016 11:01 AM
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I think you will have to make that rim

need to get a old 15 inch rim off a spider hub off a low loader or if your in the US a 15 inch Dayton rim off a low boy ???? think that maybe how the yanks say it and then get a piece of flat plate cut the circle out with the gas axe drill the holes and weld it into the rim I dont think you will be able be to buy that style rim off the shelf but should be able to make it for under a 100 bucks

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Fri, Apr 8, 2016 1:56 PM
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Hadn't thought about making one, that might not be a bad option. I do have a cnc mill and lathe big enough to machine that, though would still have to get the rim and I'm not sure my welds are goo enough to really trust doing something that important.

Pete, if you can look into it I'd appreciate it. I'm planning to be at the SM show, so we can tie in there if it works out. Might be worth getting a set of them and running the radials just to get a bit more load capacity. My crawler and backhoe both are both heavy enough to be right on the max load for it so I worry a about it though so far no issues. Really I need a bigger trailer, and a bigger truck and.... but this trailer is very nice for what it is and what I do with it.

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Sat, Apr 9, 2016 12:06 AM
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Hadn't thought about making one, that might not be a bad option. I do have a cnc mill and lathe big enough to machine that, though would still have to get the rim and I'm not sure my welds are goo enough to really trust doing something that important.

Pete, if you can look into it I'd appreciate it. I'm planning to be at the SM show, so we can tie in there if it works out. Might be worth getting a set of them and running the radials just to get a bit more load capacity. My crawler and backhoe both are both heavy enough to be right on the max load for it so I worry a about it though so far no issues. Really I need a bigger trailer, and a bigger truck and.... but this trailer is very nice for what it is and what I do with it.

Thanks.
those 15 inch rims were standard on older low beds even in the US not sure when they changed but all the US low bed's that the US army used in WW2 used 15 inch rims eg on Rogers floats oop's lowbeds so the rims I would think should be lying around at truck wreckers etc my float still use's them Swishy that used to be on here all the time his floats use them
I guess what Im saying is they are a very common rim

Paul
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Sat, Apr 9, 2016 4:03 AM
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Try e-trailer.com
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Sat, Apr 30, 2016 8:30 AM
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IS that a split rim Pete as I think that is what will required to get the same type of tyre on the rim as John is chasing

Paul
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Sat, Apr 30, 2016 10:20 AM
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Pete, thanks. Do you have a contact at the tire shop? Got a few questions on them and it seems best to just call them directly.

I'll probably just get 4 of those rims & radial tires - looks like those tires are rated ~4k ea which will be a nice safety margin since right now I'm running pretty much right at max load on the tires when hauling the crawler or backhoe. Then I can use on the current set as a spare and be good to go.

Probably will just pick them up from the store myself since I'll be going by there a few times next month. Not sure the finances will support getting them before SM.

Paul, yes the current rims are split tube type. As long as I can get tires to match the new rims though there's no reason I need to stick with that style and I understand not too many places are willing to work on split rims these days too.

~John
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Wed, May 4, 2016 7:25 AM
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Pete, thanks. Do you have a contact at the tire shop? Got a few questions on them and it seems best to just call them directly.

I'll probably just get 4 of those rims & radial tires - looks like those tires are rated ~4k ea which will be a nice safety margin since right now I'm running pretty much right at max load on the tires when hauling the crawler or backhoe. Then I can use on the current set as a spare and be good to go.

Probably will just pick them up from the store myself since I'll be going by there a few times next month. Not sure the finances will support getting them before SM.

Paul, yes the current rims are split tube type. As long as I can get tires to match the new rims though there's no reason I need to stick with that style and I understand not too many places are willing to work on split rims these days too.

~John
Also, in 1974 we blew a rim on our 3/4 t Ford that had split rims. At that time the tire co encouraged us to get rid of those because the ring ever so slightly "wiggles" on the rim causing it to wear and blow out as ours did.

From that time on I have never used split rims, only drop center. Even big trucks now run nothing but drop center tubeless systems.
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Wed, May 4, 2016 11:30 AM
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Also, in 1974 we blew a rim on our 3/4 t Ford that had split rims. At that time the tire co encouraged us to get rid of those because the ring ever so slightly "wiggles" on the rim causing it to wear and blow out as ours did.

From that time on I have never used split rims, only drop center. Even big trucks now run nothing but drop center tubeless systems.
the US is a bit of a girls blouse when it comes to split rims I have heard of people in the US having trouble trying to get tyre fitters to fit them no such problem in Australia plenty of Toyotas and and other types of Jap 4x4'x came out new with split rims up well into the 90's the good thing about them is you can fix them your self if you have to with out any special equipment and if you do the job right they are just as safe if not safer than tubeless but I guess its getting harder now to find people who now how to work with them safely anymore

Paul
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Wed, May 4, 2016 4:18 PM
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the US is a bit of a girls blouse when it comes to split rims I have heard of people in the US having trouble trying to get tyre fitters to fit them no such problem in Australia plenty of Toyotas and and other types of Jap 4x4'x came out new with split rims up well into the 90's the good thing about them is you can fix them your self if you have to with out any special equipment and if you do the job right they are just as safe if not safer than tubeless but I guess its getting harder now to find people who now how to work with them safely anymore

Paul
Split rims are not the same as multi piece wheels. Please consult the OSHA regs, sometimes they are here to help. It is a sticky.
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Wed, May 4, 2016 6:39 PM
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Split rims are not the same as multi piece wheels. Please consult the OSHA regs, sometimes they are here to help. It is a sticky.


Well said. A rim with the retainer ring is a totally different animal than the old split rims which split near the middle of the rims. They split rims which have been banned for years had a connecting ring about two inches wide with both edges curled over to catch the wheel halves. You have to look pretty far to even see one any more. For years most folks have mistakingly called a retainer ring wheel a split ring.

Nothing wrong with a retainer ring wheel. Most heavy equipment tires still use a variant of them.
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Wed, May 4, 2016 8:10 PM
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