ACMOC
Login | Register
ACMOC
OT Battery question

OT Battery question

Showing 1 to 6 of 6 results
gary ca
Topic Author
Offline
Member
Send a private message to gary ca
Posts: 206
Thank you received: 0
I have had a 2016 Explorer since new. First Battery lasted 2 years. Second Motorcraft battery lasted 2 years. Now on third battery. I tested the voltage while running and it is 14.85 volts. This seems a little high to me and I think I am burning the batterys up. Any thoughts?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 6, 2019 7:38 AM
bursitis
Offline
Send a private message to bursitis
Posts: 1,066
Thank you received: 0
sounds about right to me. could be you have a larger than normal parasitic draw. with the engine off and the key removed from the ignition remove the positive battery lead and place an ammeter in between the positive post and the pos lead. record the milliamps and then just put the key in and see what it does.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 6, 2019 8:57 AM
daron
Offline
Member
Send a private message to daron
Posts: 605
Thank you received: 0
Old test meters for generator/voltage regulator diagnosing had the above as the "green range". In the day of relay type voltage regulators I bent the voltage regulating relay spring anchor for 14.0V (7.0V for 6V systems). I figured mid range would give adequate charge without 'boiling' the battery dry (lead-antimony then/lead-calcium now I think).

Daron
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 6, 2019 11:42 AM
drujinin
Offline
Send a private message to drujinin
Posts: 3,852
Thank you received: 0
Reply to daron:
Old test meters for generator/voltage regulator diagnosing had the above as the "green range". In the day of relay type voltage regulators I bent the voltage regulating relay spring anchor for 14.0V (7.0V for 6V systems). I figured mid range would give adequate charge without 'boiling' the battery dry (lead-antimony then/lead-calcium now I think).

Daron
There are numerous threads about how the "New" voltage regulated alternators work. Apparently the automobile's ECM controls the output more than the Traditional voltage regulator does? If I had to change batteries that much I would be looking at changing the Alternator because I would assume it is the problem? Maybe your local Auto Parts store can run a charging diagnosis for you before going to the Dealer?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 6, 2019 7:06 PM
trainzkid88
Offline
Member
Send a private message to trainzkid88
Posts: 2,189
Thank you received: 2
Reply to drujinin:
There are numerous threads about how the "New" voltage regulated alternators work. Apparently the automobile's ECM controls the output more than the Traditional voltage regulator does? If I had to change batteries that much I would be looking at changing the Alternator because I would assume it is the problem? Maybe your local Auto Parts store can run a charging diagnosis for you before going to the Dealer?
they still use lead antimony plates though they also contain silver and calcium.

14.8 can be a little high it should be around 14.1 to 14.3 although modern engines have temp compensating alternators and the voltage can vary according to temp as the way a battery receives charge changes with temp.

2 years is standard fair for a battery in a modern car. my suggestion is get a yuasa brand battery they are one of the best in the world optima spiral cell and deka are good too. and fit the physically biggest one you can
and take your car to a auto-electrician and have the charging and electrical system checked properly a volt meter tells you very little.

also make sure any accessories are wired correctly which is to wire them through the accessories circuit so they actually do turn off when you turn off the ignition. many people have caused them selves grief by not wiring correctly especially with these modern computer controlled everything cars we have today. also the charging systems are not designed to have accessories fitted they are just enough for the vehicle as it came from factory with a slight allowance if a higher output aftermarket alternator is available have one fitted since car batteries are to start the vehicle only the charge system is to power the vehicle with the battery smoothing the output as required.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 7, 2019 5:31 PM
MichaelSmith
Offline
Send a private message to MichaelSmith
Posts: 5
Thank you received: 0
Reply to trainzkid88:
they still use lead antimony plates though they also contain silver and calcium.

14.8 can be a little high it should be around 14.1 to 14.3 although modern engines have temp compensating alternators and the voltage can vary according to temp as the way a battery receives charge changes with temp.

2 years is standard fair for a battery in a modern car. my suggestion is get a yuasa brand battery they are one of the best in the world optima spiral cell and deka are good too. and fit the physically biggest one you can
and take your car to a auto-electrician and have the charging and electrical system checked properly a volt meter tells you very little.

also make sure any accessories are wired correctly which is to wire them through the accessories circuit so they actually do turn off when you turn off the ignition. many people have caused them selves grief by not wiring correctly especially with these modern computer controlled everything cars we have today. also the charging systems are not designed to have accessories fitted they are just enough for the vehicle as it came from factory with a slight allowance if a higher output aftermarket alternator is available have one fitted since car batteries are to start the vehicle only the charge system is to power the vehicle with the battery smoothing the output as required.
The correct charging voltage is 14.0 - 14.5. Check the alternator voltage regulator.

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Agricultural machinery


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AgroCatalog - free parts catalog, user and service manual for agricultural machines
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 7, 2019 6:57 PM
old-iron-habit
Offline
Member
Send a private message to old-iron-habit
Posts: 3,520
Thank you received: 0
Reply to trainzkid88:
they still use lead antimony plates though they also contain silver and calcium.

14.8 can be a little high it should be around 14.1 to 14.3 although modern engines have temp compensating alternators and the voltage can vary according to temp as the way a battery receives charge changes with temp.

2 years is standard fair for a battery in a modern car. my suggestion is get a yuasa brand battery they are one of the best in the world optima spiral cell and deka are good too. and fit the physically biggest one you can
and take your car to a auto-electrician and have the charging and electrical system checked properly a volt meter tells you very little.

also make sure any accessories are wired correctly which is to wire them through the accessories circuit so they actually do turn off when you turn off the ignition. many people have caused them selves grief by not wiring correctly especially with these modern computer controlled everything cars we have today. also the charging systems are not designed to have accessories fitted they are just enough for the vehicle as it came from factory with a slight allowance if a higher output aftermarket alternator is available have one fitted since car batteries are to start the vehicle only the charge system is to power the vehicle with the battery smoothing the output as required.
[quote="trainzkid88"]they still use lead antimony plates though they also contain silver and calcium.

14.8 can be a little high it should be around 14.1 to 14.3 although modern engines have temp compensating alternators and the voltage can vary according to temp as the way a battery receives charge changes with temp.

2 years is standard fair for a battery in a modern car. my suggestion is get a yuasa brand battery they are one of the best in the world optima spiral cell and deka are good too. and fit the physically biggest one you can
and take your car to a auto-electrician and have the charging and electrical system checked properly a volt meter tells you very little.

also make sure any accessories are wired correctly which is to wire them through the accessories circuit so they actually do turn off when you turn off the ignition. many people have caused them selves grief by not wiring correctly especially with these modern computer controlled everything cars we have today. also the charging systems are not designed to have accessories fitted they are just enough for the vehicle as it came from factory with a slight allowance if a higher output aftermarket alternator is available have one fitted since car batteries are to start the vehicle only the charge system is to power the vehicle with the battery smoothing the output as required.[/quote]

Be careful and know what you are getting before switching to a higher amp alternator Most put out less amps than the standard alternator at all put real high RPMs. I put a 100 amp alternator on a logging slasher to increase my amps for more lights. Turned out the original 30 amp alternator put out more amps at the governed RPM the old girl was capable of running at. Unless you are flat flying all the time you may end up going backwards in the charging department.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Oct 10, 2019 10:44 AM
Showing 1 to 6 of 6 results
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

KORUMBURRA WORKING HORSE & TRACTOR & 100 YEARS OF CAT RALLY

Chapter Nineteen

| 5875 STH GIPPSLAND HWY, NYORA

Booleroo 2025

Chapter Thirty

| Booleroo Centre, 54 Arthur St, Booleroo Centre SA 5482, Australia

CAFES 2025 TULARE, CALIFORNIA

Chapter Fifteen

| Tulare, California

Wheatlands Warracknabeal Easter Rally

Chapter Nineteen

| 34 Henty Hwy, Warracknabeal
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I also joined a year ago. had been on here a couple of times as a non-member and found the info very helpful so I got a one year subscription (not very expensive at all) to try it out. I really like all the resources on here so I just got a three year. I think its a very small price for what you can get out of this site."
-Jason N

Join Today!