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Old School Train wrecking with big Cats....

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TimT
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Some old pics from train wreck days gone buy.. Edwin Winter recovered a couple locomotives and several box cars that went down into a deep gorge in the Catskill mountains. They dozed a long winding roadway into the mountain side to bring them back up to track level..Took big steel plates down heavy cables,chains, etc., dragged the units onto the plates and tied them down. Using several 9's and 8's... I think six or seven machines in total, they winched them back up the mountain and used a big 250 ton steam wrecker to re-rail them. Here are a few pics of that operation...and the use of the first of the 583's used on derailments back in the late 60's early 70's...

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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 10:44 AM
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That’s really neat. With all those big Cats around there is still a D2 there to help out.

Thanks for sharing

BP.
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 11:18 AM
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Reply to Bruce P:
That’s really neat. With all those big Cats around there is still a D2 there to help out.

Thanks for sharing

BP.
all of the big cats assisting the (( D2 )) 😊
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 11:28 AM
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all of the big cats assisting the (( D2 )) 😊


this! awesome pics, thanks.
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 9:43 PM
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this! awesome pics, thanks.
Great pictures, Funny that there was a d2 in the bunch, they probably used it to string out the cables and haul in the lunch wagon.
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 9:48 PM
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Great pictures, Funny that there was a d2 in the bunch, they probably used it to string out the cables and haul in the lunch wagon.
Thanks for sharing! If that was Pops job he would have stuck me on the D2 😞
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 10:02 PM
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Reply to Oil Slick:
Thanks for sharing! If that was Pops job he would have stuck me on the D2 😞
them some great pics i just can't get enough. kinda takes you to the seen i you just hear the guys braking order's and hear the popping and banging of the rigging coming up tight be for it lifts off. thanks for shearing some of your hard work.
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 10:37 PM
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them some great pics i just can't get enough. kinda takes you to the seen i you just hear the guys braking order's and hear the popping and banging of the rigging coming up tight be for it lifts off. thanks for shearing some of your hard work.
Great pictures. Thanks for sharing. It looks like it was pretty much cleaning up scrap iron. Probably salvaged what they could to reuse. The story behind the derailment might be interesting.
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Sun, Nov 19, 2017 11:17 PM
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Great pictures. Thanks for sharing. It looks like it was pretty much cleaning up scrap iron. Probably salvaged what they could to reuse. The story behind the derailment might be interesting.
Here are some more.... These are from my time.. of course much younger.. A couple pile ups, some bridge wrecks, and recovering a generator stator in Owego NY and a 250 ton press part a couple years later in the same area......thats me in walking amongst some propane loads that landed in the old Erie Canal near Fort Plain NY..We "The operators" wore headsets to back up hand signals from the wreckmaster as they can not always be seen on both sides of the car at once during re-railing. They always use both hand and voice commands when using radios/headsets. Its very different than planned, engineered lifts, its a lot of "seat of the pants" type work for all involved. Mistakes are fairly rare though. Think about the shifted loads, things you can not see, bad terrain, etc...

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Here are some more.... These are from my time.. of course much younger.. A couple pile ups, some bridge wrecks, and recovering a generator stator in Owego NY and a 250 ton press part a couple years later in the same area......thats me in walking amongst some propane loads that landed in the old Erie Canal near Fort Plain NY..We "The operators" wore headsets to back up hand signals from the wreckmaster as they can not always be seen on both sides of the car at once during re-railing. They always use both hand and voice commands when using radios/headsets. Its very different than planned, engineered lifts, its a lot of "seat of the pants" type work for all involved. Mistakes are fairly rare though. Think about the shifted loads, things you can not see, bad terrain, etc...

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TimT

Seeing all those cars piled up, there much have been some loud noises about you as you cleaned up those wrecks! Right out of Bat Man!

There was an outfit out of Massillon OH. that I can't name that used to clean up wrecks also. I used to work with a guy who had worked for them and he used to tell me stories similar to yours. Seeing those old names like PennCentral on the cars brings back memories.

By the way, I grew up in Olean NY, so your pics also bring back memories of those days as well. Our family used to know the Perrigo family who I think were in the insurance business and who lived in Gowanda.

Thanks for posting,
Jan M
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Mon, Nov 20, 2017 4:30 AM
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TimT

Seeing all those cars piled up, there much have been some loud noises about you as you cleaned up those wrecks! Right out of Bat Man!

There was an outfit out of Massillon OH. that I can't name that used to clean up wrecks also. I used to work with a guy who had worked for them and he used to tell me stories similar to yours. Seeing those old names like PennCentral on the cars brings back memories.

By the way, I grew up in Olean NY, so your pics also bring back memories of those days as well. Our family used to know the Perrigo family who I think were in the insurance business and who lived in Gowanda.

Thanks for posting,
Jan M
I believe Ken Eder also does this type of work. The 2019 National ACMOC show will be held at his place in North Carolina. Thanks.

Bryan
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Mon, Nov 20, 2017 4:38 AM
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