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No.11 3cyl grader repair help needed

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Willie
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We have a gentleman in Huron S.D. that needs help removing pony and water pump to repair them and is looking manuals and someone that may be willing to help him or at least explain to him what he needs to do. I don't know much about the 3cyl. diesel except they sound good LOL. If anybody is interested in helping this gentleman, please contact me and Ill pass his contact info to you
Thanks Willie
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Sat, Jan 18, 2014 9:05 AM
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You wont get much help on here with regards to graders. I can attest to that. This is almost anything but a forum that deals with Caterpillar Graders.
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 4:59 AM
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Hey Willie, Join him up!

I think there are lots of us here on the board that are interested in graders, and I remember some threads on the old graders that might be of interest to him. Anyway, the best way to tap into the knowledge base here is to join and post.

Here's one thread I picked out from a search
http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?12482-What-model-grader-is-this&highlight=11+grader

Just so you know Mark, there are 336 threads that come up when you search for grader, so that hardly counts as graders being ignored in my book.
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:21 AM
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Hey Willie, Join him up!

I think there are lots of us here on the board that are interested in graders, and I remember some threads on the old graders that might be of interest to him. Anyway, the best way to tap into the knowledge base here is to join and post.

Here's one thread I picked out from a search
http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?12482-What-model-grader-is-this&highlight=11+grader

Just so you know Mark, there are 336 threads that come up when you search for grader, so that hardly counts as graders being ignored in my book.
Hi Team,
we try and help where possible. Sorry, I thought he was looking for someone to go around and guide him along.
He was looking for books--cannot help much without Serial Numbers of unit and engine. I have a list of the few books, but is complicated and long--but the old Ebay may get something IF S/No's are to hand.

There is a general Servicemen's Reference Book for Caterpillar Diesel Engines, Form No 5060 ( the one I have is Edition B, dated 12-47) these are fairly scarce.
Also SRB for No11 Auto Patrol is Form No P1149.

I have the following Parts Book Form No's for the No11 Auto Patrol, Serial No 6K1-up, Form No 8062 or 4517 for S/No 6K1-1261, and one for the No 11 D6600 Power Unit which is Form No 3290. There maybe others due to upgrades.

A D6600 Power Unit Operators Instruction Book Form No for engines 5E9501-5E9667--3012. and 5E9668-up--3480
Depending on Serial No's of unit and Diesel Power Unit fitted an Operators Instruction Book is listed--Form No's 4030 or 5055--most likely difference is fuel injection pump upgrade????

On the 3 cyl engines you need to remove the pony to get the water pump off !!!!!!!!!

When I purchased my non-running RD6 the pony was locked up. I pulled my pony off in the paddock so I could take it home to overhaul it so as to start the main to get the machine to a place to load it on a float.
From memory I just hooked chains onto what ever bolts looked like would give me a square lift near the correct centre of gravity--used chain block from canopy strut to lift from.
Post has gone twitchy so will sign off before it is lost.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:24 AM
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Hi Team,
we try and help where possible. Sorry, I thought he was looking for someone to go around and guide him along.
He was looking for books--cannot help much without Serial Numbers of unit and engine. I have a list of the few books, but is complicated and long--but the old Ebay may get something IF S/No's are to hand.

There is a general Servicemen's Reference Book for Caterpillar Diesel Engines, Form No 5060 ( the one I have is Edition B, dated 12-47) these are fairly scarce.
Also SRB for No11 Auto Patrol is Form No P1149.

I have the following Parts Book Form No's for the No11 Auto Patrol, Serial No 6K1-up, Form No 8062 or 4517 for S/No 6K1-1261, and one for the No 11 D6600 Power Unit which is Form No 3290. There maybe others due to upgrades.

A D6600 Power Unit Operators Instruction Book Form No for engines 5E9501-5E9667--3012. and 5E9668-up--3480
Depending on Serial No's of unit and Diesel Power Unit fitted an Operators Instruction Book is listed--Form No's 4030 or 5055--most likely difference is fuel injection pump upgrade????

On the 3 cyl engines you need to remove the pony to get the water pump off !!!!!!!!!

When I purchased my non-running RD6 the pony was locked up. I pulled my pony off in the paddock so I could take it home to overhaul it so as to start the main to get the machine to a place to load it on a float.
From memory I just hooked chains onto what ever bolts looked like would give me a square lift near the correct centre of gravity--used chain block from canopy strut to lift from.
Post has gone twitchy so will sign off before it is lost.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Same pony motor and process as on the 7M & 3T removal and probably easier to come by info. 13 bolts to remove and then be sure to swing the unit away from main engine so that the flywheel clears the web on the main engine block.
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 8:32 AM
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Same pony motor and process as on the 7M & 3T removal and probably easier to come by info. 13 bolts to remove and then be sure to swing the unit away from main engine so that the flywheel clears the web on the main engine block.
There's a lot of good info still available in the thread I started on here back in 2010 when I rebuilt my RD6 pony. Lots of specs, pictures, other misc. information, and even shots of the lifting bracket I made to more easily balance and hoist the pony motor during removal and installation. The process should be the same for the No.11 Auto Patrol.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?8278-RD-6-D6-pony-motor-help


I also still have this pic from a different thread I replied to a while ago now, it shows all the bolt locations for the 3 cylinder Cat pony motors. Still 13 bolts, but in a couple different locations than on the D7.

[img]http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy310/TRNelson/RD6/011-1.jpg[/img]
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:43 AM
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There's a lot of good info still available in the thread I started on here back in 2010 when I rebuilt my RD6 pony. Lots of specs, pictures, other misc. information, and even shots of the lifting bracket I made to more easily balance and hoist the pony motor during removal and installation. The process should be the same for the No.11 Auto Patrol.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?8278-RD-6-D6-pony-motor-help


I also still have this pic from a different thread I replied to a while ago now, it shows all the bolt locations for the 3 cylinder Cat pony motors. Still 13 bolts, but in a couple different locations than on the D7.

[img]http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy310/TRNelson/RD6/011-1.jpg[/img]
Willie gave me his # right after the first post & I called the guy. He has worked on old cats before and is savvy, but didn't remember if there was anything special about removing the pony. He just didn't want to break anything out of ignorance. I looked up the info and read it to him over the phone, I was going to copy the page and mail it to him, but there isn't really anything major there. He already had removed: hood, manifolds, water pipes, etc. He doesn't internet, and isn't planning on getting started computer wise,,,ever.
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Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:59 AM
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Willie gave me his # right after the first post & I called the guy. He has worked on old cats before and is savvy, but didn't remember if there was anything special about removing the pony. He just didn't want to break anything out of ignorance. I looked up the info and read it to him over the phone, I was going to copy the page and mail it to him, but there isn't really anything major there. He already had removed: hood, manifolds, water pipes, etc. He doesn't internet, and isn't planning on getting started computer wise,,,ever.
One thing comes to mind, Remove water pump first, With it removed it is a lot easier to get at the mounting bolts for pony, I found I had to engage the pinion to give me more room to pull the pony ahead to clear pinion, with the water pump out of the way, it is a straight side pull and out she comes, First thing take mag ,carb and manifold water pipes off, drain oil, coolant. I used a nylon sling around the block with a comealong and a A frame, carefull these little brutes are heavy, Missed some stuff, haven,t done one in 15 yrs, did lots back then, Can,t remember if there was bolts at the pinion end, The parts book for this machine are a good reference, simple stuff not like today. Ken P
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