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Newest Tracks in the Business for 2016

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John Deere is finally going to compete in the CASE/IH-New Holland Quad Trax Business..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtEQJ3HuXA
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 1:58 AM
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[quote="dctex99"]John Deere is finally going to compete in the CASE/IH-New Holland Quad Trax Business..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtEQJ3HuXA[/quote]


I think was it is, is that JD got raked over the coals with the track system on their first tracked tractor by Cat. They waited this long for a quad track articulated tractor because of the CaseIH patents. Once bitten twice shy kinda thing.

Rick
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 3:30 AM
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[quote="dctex99"]John Deere is finally going to compete in the CASE/IH-New Holland Quad Trax Business..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtEQJ3HuXA[/quote]


I think was it is, is that JD got raked over the coals with the track system on their first tracked tractor by Cat. They waited this long for a quad track articulated tractor because of the CaseIH patents. Once bitten twice shy kinda thing.

Rick
Hi, O-I-H.
Or maybe JD learned from the 764 high speed dozer that these tracks can put grunt on the ground and decided to try to venture into the market best suited for them.

Just my 0.02.
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 7:50 AM
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Hi, O-I-H.
Or maybe JD learned from the 764 high speed dozer that these tracks can put grunt on the ground and decided to try to venture into the market best suited for them.

Just my 0.02.
Cant wait to see when they get one of these stuck in the mud! rofl
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 8:13 AM
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Cant wait to see when they get one of these stuck in the mud! rofl
Hi, ROME/KG.
You haven't by some faint chance got a sadistic streak in your nature, have you?

LOL.

Just my 0.02
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 1:46 PM
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Hi All,
If I recall correctly, back in my days at the dealer here we were givin a stack of stickers with the cat ag products logo and 'innovation not imitation' on them. Seems case ih aren't the only ones being ripped off!!
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 5:05 PM
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Hi All,
If I recall correctly, back in my days at the dealer here we were givin a stack of stickers with the cat ag products logo and 'innovation not imitation' on them. Seems case ih aren't the only ones being ripped off!!
Cheers
Hutchy
Rofl, no! it just always ends up on youtube about tractors getting buried in the mud. Theres a Case IH on there that gets buried pretty good.
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 7:28 PM
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Rofl, no! it just always ends up on youtube about tractors getting buried in the mud. Theres a Case IH on there that gets buried pretty good.
Deere woke up and realized it was to costly to design a total different and specialized tractor just to be part of the market in the large horsepower tractors. With there new design they can use similar parts in common with the tired 4wd tractors with the exception of the drive train and track systems.
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 9:11 PM
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Deere woke up and realized it was to costly to design a total different and specialized tractor just to be part of the market in the large horsepower tractors. With there new design they can use similar parts in common with the tired 4wd tractors with the exception of the drive train and track systems.
Deere's new quad trac is not replacing their current two track design, both choices are now available.
Brian
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 10:10 PM
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[quote="dctex99"]John Deere is finally going to compete in the CASE/IH-New Holland Quad Trax Business..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtEQJ3HuXA[/quote]


I think was it is, is that JD got raked over the coals with the track system on their first tracked tractor by Cat. They waited this long for a quad track articulated tractor because of the CaseIH patents. Once bitten twice shy kinda thing.

Rick
[quote="oldtanker"]I think was it is, is that JD got raked over the coals with the track system on their first tracked tractor by Cat. They waited this long for a quad track articulated tractor because of the CaseIH patents. Once bitten twice shy kinda thing.

Rick[/quote]

That whole thing was nothing but a pissin' match between the CEO's of Cat & JD, according to what I was told by a JD rep...when it was all over, JD was still building tracked tractors, & some lawyers got richer...business as usual.
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Tue, Sep 15, 2015 10:43 PM
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[quote="oldtanker"]I think was it is, is that JD got raked over the coals with the track system on their first tracked tractor by Cat. They waited this long for a quad track articulated tractor because of the CaseIH patents. Once bitten twice shy kinda thing.

Rick[/quote]

That whole thing was nothing but a pissin' match between the CEO's of Cat & JD, according to what I was told by a JD rep...when it was all over, JD was still building tracked tractors, & some lawyers got richer...business as usual.



Yes but they had to redesign the system. The new design had a lot of slippage between the driver and the track in wet muddy conditions because they had to drop the part they copied from Cat's Challenger line. A lot of those tractors were traded in after the first year and the die hard JD guys went back to wheeled tractors. The new JD quad comes AFTER the CASEIH patents expired. 2-3 years ago JD was telling folks all the faults with the CASEIH Quad Trak and how stupid the design was. And I'm not anti JD. I just pay attention to the AG market as far as motive power is concerned. I do know several guys who bought the JD post Cat fight tracked tractors who did in fact take delivery in the spring and traded them that fall. They had nothing good to say about that system. And of course a JD rep isn't going to say that JD lost or that JD ever had a bad design.

Rick
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Wed, Sep 16, 2015 12:04 AM
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