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66gg1tnc
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Hi Gang

I found this board through a link over on the Red Power board (I have a Farmall H I play with)

My Name is Rob, Retired Navy. Now I work for a DOD Contractor that does maintenance on Navy aircraft here at NAWC China Lake Ca.

I (almost) have a big yellow reason for signing up here. I'm trying to save this from a Chinese pots and pans factory...
[img]http://pic70.picturetrail.com/VOL1789/7783792/19785120/319427351.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty sure it's a 212? The data plate on the front is missing...the engine plate is still there (3U1323 if I remember right, it matches the one on the engine). The seller hasn't a clue as to what model or year it is. It does run, he had the pony running when I took these pics. He was bleeding the injectors. It does move, it was in a different spot from the last time I saw it.

So...what is it? Any help is greatly appreciated 😄
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Rob

'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 8:54 AM
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Welcome and nice find😊 😊
Looks to be giving you a little grief in the process.
3U series is a model #112 (D315 engine sames as D4 "U" models) and #1323 is a 1949 unit.
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Sat, May 31, 2008 9:09 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
Welcome and nice find😊 😊
Looks to be giving you a little grief in the process.
3U series is a model #112 (D315 engine sames as D4 "U" models) and #1323 is a 1949 unit.
Thanks Old Magnet

That's the seller in the pics. I was just the camera operator this time 😄 A '49 huh? He did say he thought it was Navy surplus. Lots of construction going on here on base back then. There's a pretty big photo archive of the base when it was built back in the 40's during the war.

I hope to have it home next week and put it to work after a few repairs (like tires, 3 decent rears come with it, need to scrounge up some fronts). I have a mile of dirt road to fix/practice/play on 😛
Rob

'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 9:20 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
Welcome and nice find😊 😊
Looks to be giving you a little grief in the process.
3U series is a model #112 (D315 engine sames as D4 "U" models) and #1323 is a 1949 unit.
It is rated 75 hp and weighs 20,530 (plus scarifier). The same size as the #12 of the same era, mainly just the 4 cylinder D315 instead of the 6 cylinder D318 engine.

Get some knobs on the chatter box levers and wear gloves. It will train you not to drive a control into the end of it's travel😄 Quick moves, engage and disengage, don't feather the levers in and out, it's a dog clutch mechanism not a disk clutch.

Check out the steering box on the front, you don't want any extra slack in the bearings, but you do want the box to move smoothly without binding. CAT priced me a new worm for the 212 box @ $1200 when it shattered. I should have checked out the bearings😠 I think I have a box off a 112 now, it's a lot bigger than the old one.

Have fun!
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Sat, May 31, 2008 9:33 AM
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Reply to 66gg1tnc:
Thanks Old Magnet

That's the seller in the pics. I was just the camera operator this time 😄 A '49 huh? He did say he thought it was Navy surplus. Lots of construction going on here on base back then. There's a pretty big photo archive of the base when it was built back in the 40's during the war.

I hope to have it home next week and put it to work after a few repairs (like tires, 3 decent rears come with it, need to scrounge up some fronts). I have a mile of dirt road to fix/practice/play on 😛
Hi, 66gg1tnc.
Nice find and save. The 112's were basically a Cat 12 frame with a 4-cylinder D4 engine instead of the Cat 12's 6-cylinder D6 engine. A nice machine to operate and reliable. They didn't have the grunt of the 12's but they could still get through a pretty fair day's work and didn't tear themselves up doing it. Enjoy your little jigger.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, May 31, 2008 9:52 AM
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Reply to Deas Plant.:
Hi, 66gg1tnc.
Nice find and save. The 112's were basically a Cat 12 frame with a 4-cylinder D4 engine instead of the Cat 12's 6-cylinder D6 engine. A nice machine to operate and reliable. They didn't have the grunt of the 12's but they could still get through a pretty fair day's work and didn't tear themselves up doing it. Enjoy your little jigger.
One advantage of the China Lake area is that I don't think rust exists there😄
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Sat, May 31, 2008 10:15 AM
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Reply to Deas Plant.:
Hi, 66gg1tnc.
Nice find and save. The 112's were basically a Cat 12 frame with a 4-cylinder D4 engine instead of the Cat 12's 6-cylinder D6 engine. A nice machine to operate and reliable. They didn't have the grunt of the 12's but they could still get through a pretty fair day's work and didn't tear themselves up doing it. Enjoy your little jigger.
When I first saw the 'ol gal I tugged on the pony flywheel and then the fan...both moved easy. The stacks were both covered. Steering wheel moved easy (and the front wheels moved too!) I didn't tug on any of the levers though.

Even though she sat for 10 years she fired right up (according to the guy in the photos...)

A grease job would probably do wonders.

A question regarding fuel.
Diesel today isn't what diesel back then was. Should I put anything in the tank to help the injector pump (low sulpher is all that's available here now) Another guy I talked to said a mix of kerosene and motor oil...but he wasn't sure about that. Any modern additives available? or is the whole "low sulpher diesel trashes old injector pumps" a bunch of hooey.
Rob

'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 10:23 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
One advantage of the China Lake area is that I don't think rust exists there😄


Oh...it exists! just not as bad as some places. Surface rust will pop up quick. That's about as far as it goes though unless you park near an alkaline lake bed or something, then you can hear the rust bug chowing down 😮
Rob

'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 10:25 AM
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Reply to 66gg1tnc:
When I first saw the 'ol gal I tugged on the pony flywheel and then the fan...both moved easy. The stacks were both covered. Steering wheel moved easy (and the front wheels moved too!) I didn't tug on any of the levers though.

Even though she sat for 10 years she fired right up (according to the guy in the photos...)

A grease job would probably do wonders.

A question regarding fuel.
Diesel today isn't what diesel back then was. Should I put anything in the tank to help the injector pump (low sulpher is all that's available here now) Another guy I talked to said a mix of kerosene and motor oil...but he wasn't sure about that. Any modern additives available? or is the whole "low sulpher diesel trashes old injector pumps" a bunch of hooey.
The rig looks to be in pretty good shape. My avatar is a 112 and a later brother to yours with SE# 3U1457.

I don't have any data to back it up but I use Marvel Mystery oil at 1 quart to 30 gal fuel. Some use 2 cyle oil. I put probably 100 hrs on mine each year and have had no problems with the fuel system. Get yourself a manual so you can find all the grease zerks, gearboxes etc on the critter. 😊

Welcome to the board.

What is your H? I have a Super H Farmall.

Cats Forever

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Sat, May 31, 2008 10:36 AM
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Reply to D4Jim:
The rig looks to be in pretty good shape. My avatar is a 112 and a later brother to yours with SE# 3U1457.

I don't have any data to back it up but I use Marvel Mystery oil at 1 quart to 30 gal fuel. Some use 2 cyle oil. I put probably 100 hrs on mine each year and have had no problems with the fuel system. Get yourself a manual so you can find all the grease zerks, gearboxes etc on the critter. 😊

Welcome to the board.

What is your H? I have a Super H Farmall.
[quote="D4Jim"]The rig looks to be in pretty good shape. My avatar is a 112 and a later brother to yours with SE# 3U1457.

I don't have any data to back it up but I use Marvel Mystery oil at 1 quart to 30 gal fuel. Some use 2 cyle oil. I put probably 100 hrs on mine each year and have had no problems with the fuel system. Get yourself a manual so you can find all the grease zerks, gearboxes etc on the critter. 😊

Welcome to the board.

What is your H? I have a Super H Farmall.[/quote]
Mine's a '47. Here I am doing what the soon to be mine 112 will help out with.
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'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 11:07 AM
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Reply to D4Jim:
The rig looks to be in pretty good shape. My avatar is a 112 and a later brother to yours with SE# 3U1457.

I don't have any data to back it up but I use Marvel Mystery oil at 1 quart to 30 gal fuel. Some use 2 cyle oil. I put probably 100 hrs on mine each year and have had no problems with the fuel system. Get yourself a manual so you can find all the grease zerks, gearboxes etc on the critter. 😊

Welcome to the board.

What is your H? I have a Super H Farmall.
[quote="D4Jim"] Get yourself a manual so you can find all the grease zerks, gearboxes etc on the critter. 😊
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A manual is on the shopping list. Thanks for the tip on Marvel....got plenty of that stuff around here 😛
Rob

'74 Plymouth Voyager PB300 Sportsman
'64 Chrysler 300
'47 Farmall H
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Sat, May 31, 2008 11:13 AM
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