New Cat 22 Owner with questions

Irolla: Your Caterpillar twenty two has problems that are typical to those tractors of that age.
All your problems can be resolved with some homework.
Your exhaust manifold can be fixed. Either with replacement parts that can be found either through
the bulletin board or through meeting people that have Cats. You can talk to Florin tractor in Sacramento Ca. If they don't have it they can tell you where to look!
Your fuel pump........is it on the tractor? If it is the reason why it is not hooked up is probably the rubber seal went bad. Ask Florin Tractor...... Yes the fuel pump is rebuildable! When you don't have a fuel pump working you can not climb steep hills with it because there is no way to get fuel to the carburator. Your tractor will work fine on flat ground.
The guages on your tractor are supposed to be a guage which has a beveled glass face to them.
Oil pressure and tempurature. If you want them back to original they can be rebuilt. If you don't care, you can put a smaller guage in the same hole. Yes they are available. You can check at the Cat dealer.
The gas tank..... Well back when they first came out with the twenty two, gasoline was expensive to use, so they started the cat on gas .......which is the cap coming out of the firewall. When the tractor warmed up they turned a lever which opened the big fuel tank which was kerosine and ran the cat on kerosine which was the cheaper fuel of the day!
Good luck with you project....... don't be afraid to ask questions there are plenty of people who can help.......

Tractorboy1

[quote="Tractorboy1"]Irolla: Your Caterpillar twenty two has problems that are typical to those tractors of that age.
All your problems can be resolved with some homework.
Your exhaust manifold can be fixed. Either with replacement parts that can be found either through
the bulletin board or through meeting people that have Cats. You can talk to Florin tractor in Sacramento Ca. If they don't have it they can tell you where to look!
Your fuel pump........is it on the tractor? If it is the reason why it is not hooked up is probably the rubber seal went bad. Ask Florin Tractor...... Yes the fuel pump is rebuildable! When you don't have a fuel pump working you can not climb steep hills with it because there is no way to get fuel to the carburator. Your tractor will work fine on flat ground.
The guages on your tractor are supposed to be a guage which has a beveled glass face to them.
Oil pressure and tempurature. If you want them back to original they can be rebuilt. If you don't care, you can put a smaller guage in the same hole. Yes they are available. You can check at the Cat dealer.
The gas tank..... Well back when they first came out with the twenty two, gasoline was expensive to use, so they started the cat on gas .......which is the cap coming out of the firewall. When the tractor warmed up they turned a lever which opened the big fuel tank which was kerosine and ran the cat on kerosine which was the cheaper fuel of the day!
Good luck with you project....... don't be afraid to ask questions there are plenty of people who can help.......

Tractorboy1[/quote]

Yes the fuel pump is there, just not hooked up. I have a feeling they took it out of the system due to problems. Will research the rebuild. Florin is not too far away from the tractor location.

The oil gauge is there but the temperature is gone. Will go down the path of CAT replacements. Do you happen to have part #s for the oil and temp CAT gauges? If not, I can ask the dealership.

The manifold is going to be the fun one. The bolts are very rusty. I put some oil on the threads before I left but I know it's going to take heat and a lot of patience not to break them off. The heat exchanger is also frozen, disconnected and the linkage and lever are gone. I know I don't need them where I'm located but it would be nice to replace to make it complete.

Fascinating about the two fuel tanks. That is what I love about older machines. They have linkage to days gone by and what life was like back then.

Larry

Larry, if Wally can't help, I have a few good complete ones and separate. We need the part number. Thanks Scott

For Your temp Indicator the part # is 4B0226 , Cat may service an update to a 2" gauge with a bezel to go out to 2 1/2 inch. This definetly apply's to the Oil guage # 6B2355 . Be carefull removing the Large Nut from the Thermostat manifold , they are something special and would be very suprised if Cat can Help , it has a very course Thread. I am currently getting a 2 1/2 temp guage Repaired here in Australia and it will cost an Arm and a Leg . Fuel pump Diaphram's are readily available .
I haven't seen a heat exchange lever in Working order out Here . They would need to be used reguarly to keep them from Seizing up . Good Luck with Resto and Post some Pic's . LJ

Larry, if the fuel pump was disconnected due to a broken diaphragm, you can get a new one and hook it back up.
Cheers,
Neil.

Larry;
If you have experience with welding you can weld the cracked manifold. Your best bet is to have the manifold on, so it will not warp. My 22 had a huge crack on the exhaust manifold. I bought some nickel rod and welded it up. Well, not that simple, you need to pre-heat the manifold, either by running the machine or with a torch. Then when you start to weld, start at one end, make a small bead (1"long) and then peen it with your chip hammer. Then you move to the other end and repeat the process. Complete welding the crack in small increments, and peening. After you are finished, let it cool slowly, re-heating when it starts to cool off. This is how I did it on my 22, it worked well and did not re crack.
Andy

[quote="abarhydt"]Larry;
If you have experience with welding you can weld the cracked manifold. Your best bet is to have the manifold on, so it will not warp. My 22 had a huge crack on the exhaust manifold. I bought some nickel rod and welded it up. Well, not that simple, you need to pre-heat the manifold, either by running the machine or with a torch. Then when you start to weld, start at one end, make a small bead (1"long) and then peen it with your chip hammer. Then you move to the other end and repeat the process. Complete welding the crack in small increments, and peening. After you are finished, let it cool slowly, re-heating when it starts to cool off. This is how I did it on my 22, it worked well and did not re crack.
Andy[/quote]

Ok Andy, I'm buying the beer, steaks and the nickel rod. No real welding experience in my quiver yet. I have a neighbor with some experience but not with nickel rod. Let me see how difficult it's going to be to get it off. I would really like to replace it and know that it's going to last.

Thanks for the advise. It's nice knowing there is a backup plan. Larry

Larry I am part of ch 5 in Petaluma, which are a great group of people. Jessi Gilbertson has started a chapter your way that is based out of Woodland. So if your at all interested in joining a
chapter it would be a nice way to make a few friends that would give you more sources in which to help you along with your project.
I used to have a Orchard 22 that had a bad exhaust manifold on it. I actually bought another bad
manifold and used the good parts to make a good manifold.
My Guages that were in the tractor were the original guages, just in bad shape, so I had them refurbished. This was done a few years back, and it cost me five hundred for the both of them to be fixed up. But they sure made the tractor!
Allright keep those tracks roll"n...........
Tractorboy1