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First post, so I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this. I heard of this site from HEF and figured this would be a better place to post.

I'm looking for an older dozer (or two...), there is a guy on craigslist selling a D7 17A and a D7 3T, of course I'd like a bigger machine (I have a problem with big iron of any kind), but I think either of those would work for me.

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I have 2 D7 Cat dozers for sale. The first one is a 17A motor is strong and Transmission is good but tracks need new seals to tighten them parts cost about $100 but takes some sweat to get it done. Double drum winch on the back and electronic start. The second one is a D7 3T the motor is very strong and under carriage is in great shape. Tractor has a few water leaks that need fixing and the starting motor is tempermental. I can start and load either tractor for you. Both for 10,000 or 6000 each. Price is firm. Both are good running machines and need very little money spent on them.

He's supposed to send me some better pictures, and it would be a while before I could go see them in person, but how reasonable is his price? The 17A looks like it has the nicest tracks, the ones on the 3T look like the grousers are mostly gone. But I'm not a track expert, kinda just now figure out how to assess them for wear.

I'm not really afraid of working on older stuff, would fit right in with the junk I've got. I don't need 100% efficiency and won't be using them all the time so I think I could like with the constant work out of direct drive (never operated a dozer before, but I've read the old direct drive machines were rough to run).

Thanks for any and all info
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 4:18 AM
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Price doesn't sound bad for either one. Serial number makes a big difference. 3T23647 up has oil clutch. The 17A has oil clutch standard and is a later machine 1955-61. 17A11879-up is a turbo machine.
It's all about condition but I wouldn't expect to much in that price range.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 4:39 AM
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Price doesn't sound bad for either one. Serial number makes a big difference. 3T23647 up has oil clutch. The 17A has oil clutch standard and is a later machine 1955-61. 17A11879-up is a turbo machine.
It's all about condition but I wouldn't expect to much in that price range.
Here are the pictures from the ad, not the greatest.

Grousers look pretty work down on one of them.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 5:03 AM
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Reply to alskdjfhg:
Here are the pictures from the ad, not the greatest.

Grousers look pretty work down on one of them.
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17 A has segmented sprockets which are a nice touch the 17 A is a much better machine than a 3 T to me because they have all the up dates stronger chassis oil clutch hydraulic track adjusters better heads more power the list goes on and on
My only advice to anyone is beware of tracks and all the other bits and pieces of walking, you can chew thru big bucket loads of cash in heart beat fixing walking gear

Paul
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 6:30 AM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
17 A has segmented sprockets which are a nice touch the 17 A is a much better machine than a 3 T to me because they have all the up dates stronger chassis oil clutch hydraulic track adjusters better heads more power the list goes on and on
My only advice to anyone is beware of tracks and all the other bits and pieces of walking, you can chew thru big bucket loads of cash in heart beat fixing walking gear

Paul
Hey alkdjfng,

Where are you located? Where are the D7's. Let me know.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 7:23 AM
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Sounds good to me......assuming the tracks are not worn so bad you can't get some hours out of them before they have to be replaced. Need to especially look/measure the bushings for wear in both the forward and reverse sides. If they are thin or already shattering, they're done. Internal bushing and pin wear (track is stretched) can be something you live with but it can make for a real frustrating day if you loose a track because they are real "snaky". If you are able to properly tension them, keeping worn tracks on isn't too hard unless you are working a lot of slopes.

The grousers can be welded up with replacement grouser bar or even rebar cut to length, assuming of course the rest of the track is worth it. Have to look at the big picture.

As the owner says, the hydraulic(grease) track adjuster seals are a common failure. Just some heavy work to get them replaced.

I would want to see and hear the tractors run before I laid down the cash. We bought a D7E a few years ago that was not known to have engine trouble, but it soon developed severe blowby. When we overhauled it, it was obvious the engine had been lightly stuck and broke some rings when it was started up. Sitting unused is not good for one especially in our humid South Eastern climate.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 7:36 AM
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Sounds good to me......assuming the tracks are not worn so bad you can't get some hours out of them before they have to be replaced. Need to especially look/measure the bushings for wear in both the forward and reverse sides. If they are thin or already shattering, they're done. Internal bushing and pin wear (track is stretched) can be something you live with but it can make for a real frustrating day if you loose a track because they are real "snaky". If you are able to properly tension them, keeping worn tracks on isn't too hard unless you are working a lot of slopes.

The grousers can be welded up with replacement grouser bar or even rebar cut to length, assuming of course the rest of the track is worth it. Have to look at the big picture.

As the owner says, the hydraulic(grease) track adjuster seals are a common failure. Just some heavy work to get them replaced.

I would want to see and hear the tractors run before I laid down the cash. We bought a D7E a few years ago that was not known to have engine trouble, but it soon developed severe blowby. When we overhauled it, it was obvious the engine had been lightly stuck and broke some rings when it was started up. Sitting unused is not good for one especially in our humid South Eastern climate.
I live near by and have seen this add on graigslist off and on for the last 6 months.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 7:46 AM
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I live near by and have seen this add on graigslist off and on for the last 6 months.


I have too, I thought they were located in Ft Worth, TX?
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 8:13 AM
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I have too, I thought they were located in Ft Worth, TX?
Not exactly Fort Worth, but in that area.

Be at least a week before I could go see them (Im in Houston), but might be worth the trip.
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 8:35 AM
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Reply to alskdjfhg:
Not exactly Fort Worth, but in that area.

Be at least a week before I could go see them (Im in Houston), but might be worth the trip.
my comments;100.00 bucks toward any track repair is only a dream, it would be unwise to think otherwise,big bucks for any track
work,unless you do all the work your-self,then your time might be better spent doing other things.[after retiring,purchased a D-7 17A,
spent almost 2 years restoring ,had lots of time]

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