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Sargosailor
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The old style master pin on my D2 track has tapered plugs to retain them. I cannot determine what the internal thread is to pull them. The Cat part number for the screw removal tool is 3B1027. Does anyone know what thread size that is?
Jim
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Tue, May 22, 2007 5:10 AM
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I believe it's 3/8 fine thread on the D2
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Tue, May 22, 2007 5:16 AM
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I believe it's 3/8 fine thread on the D2
Thanks OM,
I'll try it again but 5/16 was too small and 3/8 seemed too big. I do have nf taps. I wanted to clean up the threads before I tried to pull it with a bolt.
Jim
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Tue, May 22, 2007 5:27 AM
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Reply to Sargosailor:
Thanks OM,
I'll try it again but 5/16 was too small and 3/8 seemed too big. I do have nf taps. I wanted to clean up the threads before I tried to pull it with a bolt.
Jim
I tapped mine out with a 3/8 NC tap. The threads looked coarse to me but they were badly rusted. The cork plugs were long gone. I tried pulling 4 plugs (2 different dozers) and had no luck. You will need a grade 8 bolt and some hydraulic means of pulling. I even had the plugs and pins glowing red hot and still nothing. Ended up striping all the threads. Finally torched them out and the pins still hammered out hard. Hope you have better luck them me.
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Tue, May 22, 2007 6:37 AM
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I tapped mine out with a 3/8 NC tap. The threads looked coarse to me but they were badly rusted. The cork plugs were long gone. I tried pulling 4 plugs (2 different dozers) and had no luck. You will need a grade 8 bolt and some hydraulic means of pulling. I even had the plugs and pins glowing red hot and still nothing. Ended up striping all the threads. Finally torched them out and the pins still hammered out hard. Hope you have better luck them me.
I'm surprised you could tap them at all. The plugs seems to be hardened when I chased the threads.
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Tue, May 22, 2007 7:25 AM
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I'm surprised you could tap them at all. The plugs seems to be hardened when I chased the threads.
smf52, What size hammer did you use? I assume you used a sledge hammer and a drift? Did you need a helper? The inside plug is missing and the pin has worked it's way to the outside about 1 1/4". The outside plug is still in place but if I could remove it I was going to drive it back in place. If I can't get the plug out in place, maybe I could drive it out from the inside and deal with the plug on the bench.
Jim
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Tue, May 22, 2007 7:35 AM
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smf52, What size hammer did you use? I assume you used a sledge hammer and a drift? Did you need a helper? The inside plug is missing and the pin has worked it's way to the outside about 1 1/4". The outside plug is still in place but if I could remove it I was going to drive it back in place. If I can't get the plug out in place, maybe I could drive it out from the inside and deal with the plug on the bench.
Jim
The standard hammer we used at the dealer was a 16 lb.for driving pins in & out.For the drift (driver) we had a piece of wire rope (cable) welded on it for the 2nd guy to hold on to so if the hammer missed it saved a trip to the hospital.For real HD jobs we had a couple 20 lb. ones to use.
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Tue, May 22, 2007 6:01 PM
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The standard hammer we used at the dealer was a 16 lb.for driving pins in & out.For the drift (driver) we had a piece of wire rope (cable) welded on it for the 2nd guy to hold on to so if the hammer missed it saved a trip to the hospital.For real HD jobs we had a couple 20 lb. ones to use.
Boy! There ain't much room to swing a BFH from the inside of the track. Looks like this may take a while😊 .
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Wed, May 23, 2007 5:19 AM
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Boy! There ain't much room to swing a BFH from the inside of the track. Looks like this may take a while😊 .
If you unbolt the spring and jack the engine way up and block it dam....really good, BE SAFE, and work with the pin at the front idler, you can get a pretty good swing at it. Good luck.
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Wed, May 23, 2007 12:15 PM
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The standard hammer we used at the dealer was a 16 lb.for driving pins in & out.For the drift (driver) we had a piece of wire rope (cable) welded on it for the 2nd guy to hold on to so if the hammer missed it saved a trip to the hospital.For real HD jobs we had a couple 20 lb. ones to use.



Well that explains why they came out so hard. I was using a 5 pound sledge and steel drift. Took about 30 minutes of pounding and my arm was DEAD.
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Thu, May 24, 2007 4:46 AM
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