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Hi I am new to the group and would like shift pattern and any good info on this old blade if anyone has it.
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Mon, May 24, 2010 7:04 AM
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Being a 1945, it can be either a late 9K or an early 7T series grader. As far as I know they were basically the same grader, the serial numbers reached 9K9999 and they started with 7T1 on the next machine sometime in 1945.

D4600 6 cylinder 4-1/4" bore x 5-1/2" stroke diesel, 75 hp @ 1400 rpm full load.
12' moldboard
21,500 pounds standard machine w/o extras.

Can't help on the shift pattern.

Congratulations! any pictures?
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Mon, May 24, 2010 7:47 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
Being a 1945, it can be either a late 9K or an early 7T series grader. As far as I know they were basically the same grader, the serial numbers reached 9K9999 and they started with 7T1 on the next machine sometime in 1945.

D4600 6 cylinder 4-1/4" bore x 5-1/2" stroke diesel, 75 hp @ 1400 rpm full load.
12' moldboard
21,500 pounds standard machine w/o extras.

Can't help on the shift pattern.

Congratulations! any pictures?
we just got it running Friday, it hasn't got a pony motor so we plated that off and pull started it. We used a hand crank to bleed the injectors. I will try and get some pics up. It was originally military green then county orange and now flaking cat yellow but it doesn't look like its had a tough life other than a lot of sitting in the elements.
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Mon, May 24, 2010 9:29 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
Being a 1945, it can be either a late 9K or an early 7T series grader. As far as I know they were basically the same grader, the serial numbers reached 9K9999 and they started with 7T1 on the next machine sometime in 1945.

D4600 6 cylinder 4-1/4" bore x 5-1/2" stroke diesel, 75 hp @ 1400 rpm full load.
12' moldboard
21,500 pounds standard machine w/o extras.

Can't help on the shift pattern.

Congratulations! any pictures?
I am sure I have most all the books on that grader but need the serial# and will be glad to send a pic of the shift pattern if I can get the darned camera to transfer the pics to the computer. Maybe someone will beat me to it. Charlie
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Mon, May 24, 2010 9:34 AM
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I am sure I have most all the books on that grader but need the serial# and will be glad to send a pic of the shift pattern if I can get the darned camera to transfer the pics to the computer. Maybe someone will beat me to it. Charlie
thanks Charlie, I've got a bear hunt tomorrow but I will get the serial # here in a day or 2
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Mon, May 24, 2010 10:12 AM
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thanks Charlie, I've got a bear hunt tomorrow but I will get the serial # here in a day or 2
Hi, Lineman.
What you have there, if my memory serves me right, would be a standard 'H' pattern gear shift in the main box and Hi-Low on the range lever with Hi being to the rear, giving you 6 speeds forward and 2 reverse.

How-wevver, it is not quite as simple as that. The easiest way to describe it is:

1st Low = 1st gear
1st Hi = 2nd gear
2nd Low = 3rd gear
2nd Hi = 4th gear
3rd Low = 5th gear
3rd Hi = 6th gear

In practice, theoretically, you would move the range lever for every change and the main box for every second change.When actually roading the machine, you can usually take off in 4th gear and then change through 5th and into 6th. I doubt you will become too intoxicated by the exuberance of your velocity. The old girls are flat out at around 20 mph - on the flat.

Reverse is pretty self-explanatory - reverse-Low = low reverse, reverse-Hi = hi reverse. Later model Cat 12's from somewhere during the 21F model run had a second reverse in the main box giving 4 reverse gears total.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, May 24, 2010 7:21 PM
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Hi, Lineman.
What you have there, if my memory serves me right, would be a standard 'H' pattern gear shift in the main box and Hi-Low on the range lever with Hi being to the rear, giving you 6 speeds forward and 2 reverse.

How-wevver, it is not quite as simple as that. The easiest way to describe it is:

1st Low = 1st gear
1st Hi = 2nd gear
2nd Low = 3rd gear
2nd Hi = 4th gear
3rd Low = 5th gear
3rd Hi = 6th gear

In practice, theoretically, you would move the range lever for every change and the main box for every second change.When actually roading the machine, you can usually take off in 4th gear and then change through 5th and into 6th. I doubt you will become too intoxicated by the exuberance of your velocity. The old girls are flat out at around 20 mph - on the flat.

Reverse is pretty self-explanatory - reverse-Low = low reverse, reverse-Hi = hi reverse. Later model Cat 12's from somewhere during the 21F model run had a second reverse in the main box giving 4 reverse gears total.

Hope this helps.
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Mon, May 24, 2010 10:25 PM
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here is a pic

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Thanks everone for your help, I will try and get a few pics of the old girl up and going.
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Tue, May 25, 2010 3:56 AM
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Thanks everone for your help, I will try and get a few pics of the old girl up and going.
my serial # is 9k 8823 and I have a parts machine that has a tag from mexico that has a serial # 8T17423 does that mean anything and if so what year is it, I am pretty sure it is newer as it has hydraulic side shift and a diffrent motor setup.
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Tue, May 25, 2010 6:43 AM
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8T17423 is a 1956 model 12 grader with an oil clutch sharing the engine oil supply. Engine is a D318 4.5" x 5.5" 6 cylinder diesel @ 100 hp.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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