Need HELP with D6 Starting Engine Clutch

You know I,m sure that the compartment there takes oil in it for operation. To get a little look in there to what,s going on you should take the 3 bolts out of the lever bracket & pull it out & take a look in there & see what may be wrong and then go from there.If there was no oil in there it might have fused the brake parts together in there so if you take the cover off as I suggested you will get a better look in there.

Can you spin the main over by hand, with the compression released?

David

D6 9U starter pinion clutch shaft bent

I can't really help since I am knew to this, but I can say I have a very similar problem, and took the advice to remove the clutch, and I discovered a bent pinion shaft. When I was trying to engage it it would stall the pony engine real fast, as you described, and to make sure I turned the main engine with the fan belt and it turned fine, so I knew the problem was somewhere in between. Now I am trying to get more information on the engagement arm lever that is inside, and what may have cause the shaft to bend, was it simply wear and tear over the years? My manual show the diagram for the pinion clutch, but does not provide information on the end of the shaft, what part may be missing there, and what the inside engagement lever is supposed to look like, the end of it is a little mangled and I am wondering if something broke off it, and should it be replaced as well? Is it possible that a part that is in between to make contact between the shaft and lever would have fell down and needs to be retrieved?

Anyone that can help I would appreciate it greatly as winter is coming and the snow here is wet and heavy... eventually we need the cat to move the snow banks...

Denis

What's the serial number of your D6? The clutch brakes are different between early and late units. Pretty unusual to bend the main shaft. Something drastic would have to occur to cause that.

Here is a typical clutch/brake lever housing:

What's the serial number of your D6? The clutch brakes are different between early and late units. Pretty unusual to bend the main shaft. Something drastic would have to occur to cause that.

Here is a typical clutch/brake lever housing:

[quote="Old Magnet"]What's the serial number of your D6? The clutch brakes are different between early and late units. Pretty unusual to bend the main shaft. Something drastic would have to occur to cause that.

Here is a typical clutch/brake lever housing:[/quote]

Thanks for your reply... the shop would also like to know the serial number and suggested a few places to look, no luck so far. Anyway, I got some help to attempt to fix the clutch, they recommended ordering the whole unit in working order for about $600, as opposed to rebuilding this one for much more money. Still you are absolutely right, whatever caused it I don't want it to happen again. I did not notice anything special the last time it ran. I simply attempted to start it someday and that was that. When I removed the clutch the end piece (that fit over the shaft) fell off and the bolts on it where gone, broken. There seemed to be oil in all the right places, but obviously the clutch brake was not functioning for years, so that may have caused the shaft to bend from the excessive grinding over time? No One ever told me I should fix the brake, unfortunately.

I have learned quite a few things from reading posts on this site and managed to get things this far, I really appreciate this resource and the information you all share, hope things will work out before winter, thanks

If I'm following you right it seems the end plate is broken/missing. This also carries the shaft support bearing so it's no wonder the shaft got bent from flopping around in there. Kind of an unusual failure though. Replacing the assembly is the way to go if your not comfortable with repairs.

Here are the s/n locations plus some are stamped on the sump flange as shown, about under the transfer pump. Even if the tags are missing they are usually stamped into the castings at that location.

D6 9U starter pinion clutch shaft bent

I can't really help since I am knew to this, but I can say I have a very similar problem, and took the advice to remove the clutch, and I discovered a bent pinion shaft. When I was trying to engage it it would stall the pony engine real fast, as you described, and to make sure I turned the main engine with the fan belt and it turned fine, so I knew the problem was somewhere in between. Now I am trying to get more information on the engagement arm lever that is inside, and what may have cause the shaft to bend, was it simply wear and tear over the years? My manual show the diagram for the pinion clutch, but does not provide information on the end of the shaft, what part may be missing there, and what the inside engagement lever is supposed to look like, the end of it is a little mangled and I am wondering if something broke off it, and should it be replaced as well? Is it possible that a part that is in between to make contact between the shaft and lever would have fell down and needs to be retrieved?

Anyone that can help I would appreciate it greatly as winter is coming and the snow here is wet and heavy... eventually we need the cat to move the snow banks...

Denis