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My late Uncle though it was from an old off road dump truck. The mounting is rubber bushings, I suppose to take up the shock loads. It is labled Jones Motorola and Caterpillar Tractor Comapany. Notice also the RPM rang on the face, and a 2nd needle that is red. Not sure what that is about. Thanks for your advice in advance.

Regards, Kirk
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Thu, Mar 13, 2014 10:38 AM
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It looks like there is a part number starting with a 4H under where it says Caterpillar Tractor Co. on the face, but the rest of the number is obscured by the needle, if you can post that number we may be able to help.
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Thu, Mar 13, 2014 11:59 AM
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Reply to josh:
It looks like there is a part number starting with a 4H under where it says Caterpillar Tractor Co. on the face, but the rest of the number is obscured by the needle, if you can post that number we may be able to help.
Hi Josh,
cannot help with what it was fitted to but most common was wheel tractor scrapers in early days, and On and Off Hi-way trucks later on--maybe other applications I have missed.
With the RED Tell-Tale Needle, the Dirt Boss could keep an eye on scraper drivers etc. by re-setting the tach with a key thru the swinging cover on the side of the body.
The Tell-Tale needle cannot go past the Stop Pin at 12 o'clock so if an operator really oversped the engine that is the highest read reading!!!!
The T-T needle is at about or just above the reset speed as shown in your pictures. Cannot re-call if they go back to zero or not.

Also these Tach's were available to retro-fit or as an Attachment for Track Tractors etc.
Could also be used in Industrial applications.
They would normally be used where there was danger of operator abuse from overspeeding--ie, travelling downhill in too high a gear etc. and not controlling the engine speed.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Thu, Mar 13, 2014 3:18 PM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Josh,
cannot help with what it was fitted to but most common was wheel tractor scrapers in early days, and On and Off Hi-way trucks later on--maybe other applications I have missed.
With the RED Tell-Tale Needle, the Dirt Boss could keep an eye on scraper drivers etc. by re-setting the tach with a key thru the swinging cover on the side of the body.
The Tell-Tale needle cannot go past the Stop Pin at 12 o'clock so if an operator really oversped the engine that is the highest read reading!!!!
The T-T needle is at about or just above the reset speed as shown in your pictures. Cannot re-call if they go back to zero or not.

Also these Tach's were available to retro-fit or as an Attachment for Track Tractors etc.
Could also be used in Industrial applications.
They would normally be used where there was danger of operator abuse from overspeeding--ie, travelling downhill in too high a gear etc. and not controlling the engine speed.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
We operated several Caterpillar 619 Motor Scrapers fitted with Jones tachometer in the sixties,

Lou McMaster
Hickory, Pa.
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Fri, Mar 14, 2014 6:02 AM
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Reply to Lou McMaster:
We operated several Caterpillar 619 Motor Scrapers fitted with Jones tachometer in the sixties,

Lou McMaster
Hickory, Pa.
It looks like it came off of a scraper from the 60's. The tattle tale usually was pinned at apx. 2,200 RPM and would only go higher if the engine was over-revved. Does it have a place to insert a key in the chrome round cover on the side of the tach? That was to reset the tattle tale back to the apx. 2,200RPM mark.

In the '70's an operator I worked with was dispatched to a jobsite to find a brand new 631 scraper to run. He immediately reached up in behind the tach and the tach key was still there. He helped himself to it and made copies. I was the recipient of a copy which saved my ass a couple of times for over revving. Coming down steep grades and if you bounce it will over rev quickly if your aren't careful.
D-4 7U-43159 with 4S dozer and Cat 40 scraper, D-7 3T-1179 with Cat 7S hydraulic dozer, D-7 17A 13,944, D-8 14A-1160 with Cat 8S cable dozer, Cat 12-99E-4433 Grader. All runners and users.
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Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:24 AM
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Reply to Paso Bob:
It looks like it came off of a scraper from the 60's. The tattle tale usually was pinned at apx. 2,200 RPM and would only go higher if the engine was over-revved. Does it have a place to insert a key in the chrome round cover on the side of the tach? That was to reset the tattle tale back to the apx. 2,200RPM mark.

In the '70's an operator I worked with was dispatched to a jobsite to find a brand new 631 scraper to run. He immediately reached up in behind the tach and the tach key was still there. He helped himself to it and made copies. I was the recipient of a copy which saved my ass a couple of times for over revving. Coming down steep grades and if you bounce it will over rev quickly if your aren't careful.
I have this old insturment soaking with penetrating oil right now....

Yes there is a moving door with a place for the key to be inserted. I was able to turn the input shaft as well with litttle effort. Unless some thing is amiss inside it may very well be functional.😊

I am thinking of doing a restoration of it, and displaying it on my desk top as a decoration. You know of the mancave kind!:hat:

Unless of course some poor soul has a restoration of a machine this may have been installed on can talk me out of it. My father in law ran scrapers in the early 60's building interstates in South Dakota and Minnisota. Will have to show him. He tells me of 1 foot wide safety belts to keep you in the seat, when building interstate cross over ramps.😊

I thought it was an intresting find... More so if I only had the key.

Regards, Kirk
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