Moving d4 2t?

Hello JL, regarding your impending move: There was a pretty good thread about a week ago that discusses your exact situation with a lot of good replies. Click this link to take you there http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?16297-Getting-my-D4-7U-home

B4D2 poited you to my thread and i just got home so here is the scoop. Everyone told me a D4 6U/U doesnt weigh 10,500 and they were right, at least not with fluids, hyd. pump, lines etc. Here is what I can tell you. My D4 7U with blade, hyd. cylinders, pony battery and front hyd. pump shield removed sitting on top of my 25' GN with 2 7K axles hooked to a 2005 Chevy 2500 HD 4X4 crew cab tipped the scales at 25,300 lbs. I did not expect that but I was warned. Chevy states my truck tips the scales at 6,400 so call it 7,000 with fluids and extra stuff under the seats and me, my trailer statement of delivery says 5,120 so that puts my D4, chain, binders, etc at 13,000 and change.

So from there I pulled the both tracks (1,100 lbs each via this boards info), I pulled the ramps off the GN trailer, pulled the draw bar and brackets off the dozer, pulled the air cleaner, muffler, all spare tires/chain/tools/jacks from my truck & trailer were moved to another truck & trailer. I think I got real close to the 22,000 that Chevy rates my rig to be at on GCWR (gross combined weight rating). The truck handled it all real good. I had 2 tires fail but I worked my tail off stripping it down. My haul was 519 miles. Now I'm putting track back on, it can be done but be ready to work to keep things safe and legal.

D46uclint,

You made comment on the hard work it took to be legal and safe, but was it necessary. Here is a link that shows any trailer and load over 10,000 lbs requires a class a license even if under 26,000 gvw. So all the hard work, and it was still illegal.-glen http://www.besttruckingschools.com/cdl-requirements/nebraska-cdl-license-requirements/

Here is the washington state "who needs a CDL"
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlrequired.html
here is Idaho
http://trucking.idaho.gov/rules.html

[quote="lil cat mec"]Here is the washington state "who needs a CDL"
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlrequired.html
here is Idaho
http://trucking.idaho.gov/rules.html[/quote]

I have a CDL A with every endorsement already, Just looking for the most cost effective way to get it moved.

7UPuller, the devil is in the details and I looked all that up when I saw it on the other thread. Because of all the advise you guys helped me out with I went out there and read the Fed DOT regs, talked to the DOT highway patrol in OK, KS, and NE to make sure there were no surprised and here is what I've read and have been advised. This board really helped me out and inspired me to educate myself. It can get more than a bit fuzzy and I had to read it several times and follow up with phone calls to the DOT to make sure I had it correct. I encourage anybody getting close to the required limits read the regs and make phone calls because it is not clear and there are little loops holes that can require a CDL or make you exempt. and even if your legal, if your not comfortable or your equipment isnt in good condition then don't do it.

The general guidline is as follows--You must have a CDL to operate:
- Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more. (I was not a singe vehicle, my singel rating is 9,200 though and my combined is under 26,001 lbs.)
- A combination vehicle with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 (mine was under) or more pounds, if the trailer(s) has a GVWR of 10,001 or more pounds. (my gross comb. weight rating was under 26,001 lbs.)
- A vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver). Any size vehicle which requires hazardous.

As you read deeper things get more detailed:
-Does the vehicle or combinations of behicles hava a GVWR over 26,000? No=no CDL required, Yes=continue on to next question (I never made it past this step as my combined GVWR was uner 26,001 lbs. (9,200 truck + 14,000 trailer = no CDL required)
-Since the gross combined weight rating is over 26,000 lbs is the vehicle a combination vehicle towing a unit over 10,000 lbs GVWR? Yes=you need a Class A CDL, No=continuer to next question
-Does the single vehicle have a GVWR over 26,000lbs? Yes=You need a Class B CDL, No=continue on to next questions
-Is teh vehicle designed to carry 16 or more people including driver? Yes=You need a Class C CDL, No=continue on to next question
-Does the vehicle require hazardous material placards or tranpsort a select agent or toxin? Yes- you need a class C CDL, No= You do not need a CDL

From the link 7UPuller posted:
•Class A: Operate vehicles weighing more than 26,001 pounds that tow trailers or other vehicles weighing over 10,000 pounds (my vehicle didnt weight or have a combined manufacuter's rating of more than 26,000lbs.)
•Class B: Operate vehicles weighing more than 26,001 pounds and tow trailers or vehicles that weigh less than 10,000 pounds
•Class C: Operate vehicles that can transport 16 or more people or vehicles that transport hazardous materials

Clint, I too have researched the arcane language presented by the DOT and local state regs. I understood it exactly as you have and also went so far as to inquire with my state (Illinois) CDL facility. I also have a DMax 2500HD and a 14K gooseneck trailer. I presented the facts to the CDL personnel and received the same explanation you did. So long as the entire combo doesn't exceed 26,000 lbs, I was fine. It all depends on the tags the tow vehicle and trailer have. In my case, the truck tag is rated at 9,200 lbs and the trailer at 14,000. Add them up and you get 23,200 lbs., so no CDL required. This is confirmed by my Secretary Of State CDL office. If I had a 20K goose neck, even if it was empty, and I towed it with my pickup, it would have been capable of 29,200. I then would need a CDL, even if I was not carrying a load.

Hello Bruce and Clint,

I am not a lawyer, and don't know your local state law, but I do know Ca CDL law. Here is a link that disagrees with both of your views. It states that any intra state CDL with a trailer over 10,001 lbs needs a CDL.-glen

http://californiacdl.org/

Hello Bruce and Clint,

I am not a lawyer, and don't know your local state law, but I do know Ca CDL law. Here is a link that disagrees with both of your views. It states that any intra state CDL with a trailer over 10,001 lbs needs a CDL.-glen

http://californiacdl.org/