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Cat 10 Early Bronze BEV Carb is the 1st on the list. NOTE: All Cat-Cave Manifolds and other parts are all Back to Factory Blue-Print Data.. BUT, Due to the Carbs being manufactured Via an outside supplier. REVERSE ENGINEERING from 3 good samples is where we are at.


Phase 1. Cleaning and polishing up Good Samples, Fit Bushes to any worn Shaft Holes, Remake new Shafts and Flaps etc .
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Phase 2, Working back to Blue Print (Drawn Up at Cat-Cave). Manufacture the Moulding Tooling required to finish up with a casting plus machining and shrinkage to go back to the Blue Print.

Phase 3. Machine up the casting's in machining fixtures, De-Burr etc . Final Inspection to Blue before being passed off as good to go.

Phase 4. Assemble and FIT the Parts using Gaskets and Screws etc.
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I believe after the Cat ten run is completed , Then other Cat model Carbs will follow .
So , if people need carbs for other model tractors ,post up so we can gauge the amount of interest .
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Due to the pending ACMOC forum upgrade i have no idea how much or little i will be able to do after the upgrade goes ahead .So i suggest replies would be best before the end of the month .
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Sun, Aug 16, 2020 3:29 PM
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[quote="ianoz"]
Due to the pending ACMOC forum upgrade i have no idea how much or little i will be able to do after the upgrade goes ahead .So i suggest replies would be best before the end of the month .[/quote]

Hi Ian,

You will be able to do all that you can now if you cough up $40 and become a member.
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Sun, Aug 16, 2020 6:41 PM
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Due to the pending ACMOC forum upgrade i have no idea how much or little i will be able to do after the upgrade goes ahead .So i suggest replies would be best before the end of the month .[/quote]

Hi Ian,

You will be able to do all that you can now if you cough up $40 and become a member.
A question for you then John . Now you are an ACMOC director , are you working on disbanding the Links club to bring them all back to chapter two ? Or are they happy now to be independent from ACMOC Having them all back would be a big boost to the ACMOC bank balance .
I am guessing they will stay as Links club for their own reasons ,as i have my reasons not to rejoin .
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Sun, Aug 16, 2020 8:26 PM
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A question for you then John . Now you are an ACMOC director , are you working on disbanding the Links club to bring them all back to chapter two ? Or are they happy now to be independent from ACMOC Having them all back would be a big boost to the ACMOC bank balance .
I am guessing they will stay as Links club for their own reasons ,as i have my reasons not to rejoin .
I'll put a plug in for a Twenty-Two manifold set : ) I know Byron is focused on the other machines but hopefully one day there'll be enough demand to produce a run of these. Fingers crossed! : )
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Sun, Aug 16, 2020 9:40 PM
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A question for you then John . Now you are an ACMOC director , are you working on disbanding the Links club to bring them all back to chapter two ? Or are they happy now to be independent from ACMOC Having them all back would be a big boost to the ACMOC bank balance .
I am guessing they will stay as Links club for their own reasons ,as i have my reasons not to rejoin .
[quote="ianoz"]A question for you then John . Now you are an ACMOC director , are you working on disbanding the Links club to bring them all back to chapter two ? Or are they happy now to be independent from ACMOC Having them all back would be a big boost to the ACMOC bank balance .
I am guessing they will stay as Links club for their own reasons ,as i have my reasons not to rejoin .[/quote]

Hi Ian,
Whilst I am still a Link club member, I am no longer on the committee.
I am neither trying to persuade Link club members to join ACMOC nor trying to get UK ACMOC members to join the Link club.
In the end we are all enthusiasts of Caterpillar equipment no matter which club or clubs we belong to.
I decided to run to be an ACMOC Director after my wife passed away last March and I felt I needed a new challenge. With both the Link club and ACMOC, there are very few if any people who I do not like or get on with. The ACMOC board have faced and still face significant challenges and we all need to pull together to keep the club and hence the website/bulletin board afloat. Everyone who enjoys these facilities needs to ask themselves what it would be like without them, and how they can support us in providing these facilities.
Think not what the club can do for you but what you can do for the club!
Best regards John
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Sun, Aug 16, 2020 10:45 PM
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Reply to ianoz:
A question for you then John . Now you are an ACMOC director , are you working on disbanding the Links club to bring them all back to chapter two ? Or are they happy now to be independent from ACMOC Having them all back would be a big boost to the ACMOC bank balance .
I am guessing they will stay as Links club for their own reasons ,as i have my reasons not to rejoin .


Hi Ian,

Further to the notes above, I would be grateful if you would share with me, either here, or via a PM, your reasons for not wanting to re-join.
If we do not understand why people do not wish to rejoin or renew their membership then we have no information to allow us to review the offering we make to members and see if we can fulfill their needs.

Best Regards, John
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Mon, Aug 17, 2020 3:58 PM
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[quote="ianoz"]Cat 10 Early Bronze BEV Carb is the 1st on the list. NOTE: All Cat-Cave Manifolds and other parts are all Back to Factory Blue-Print Data.. BUT, Due to the Carbs being manufactured Via an outside supplier. REVERSE ENGINEERING from 3 good samples is where we are at.


Phase 1. Cleaning and polishing up Good Samples, Fit Bushes to any worn Shaft Holes, Remake new Shafts and Flaps etc .
.
Phase 2, Working back to Blue Print (Drawn Up at Cat-Cave). Manufacture the Moulding Tooling required to finish up with a casting plus machining and shrinkage to go back to the Blue Print.

Phase 3. Machine up the casting's in machining fixtures, De-Burr etc . Final Inspection to Blue before being passed off as good to go.

Phase 4. Assemble and FIT the Parts using Gaskets and Screws etc.
.

I believe after the Cat ten run is completed , Then other Cat model Carbs will follow .
So , if people need carbs for other model tractors ,post up so we can gauge the amount of interest .
.
[/quote]

What kind of “expression of interest “ are you looking for?
I’m a little confused how the phases figure into that expression. Is that just your planned development approach or are you proposing to deliver carbs at these 4 levels of completion?

1) I’m interested in either a full carb or a parts kit.
2) what would they cost shipped to California?
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Tue, Aug 18, 2020 7:06 PM
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[quote="ianoz"]Cat 10 Early Bronze BEV Carb is the 1st on the list. NOTE: All Cat-Cave Manifolds and other parts are all Back to Factory Blue-Print Data.. BUT, Due to the Carbs being manufactured Via an outside supplier. REVERSE ENGINEERING from 3 good samples is where we are at.


Phase 1. Cleaning and polishing up Good Samples, Fit Bushes to any worn Shaft Holes, Remake new Shafts and Flaps etc .
.
Phase 2, Working back to Blue Print (Drawn Up at Cat-Cave). Manufacture the Moulding Tooling required to finish up with a casting plus machining and shrinkage to go back to the Blue Print.

Phase 3. Machine up the casting's in machining fixtures, De-Burr etc . Final Inspection to Blue before being passed off as good to go.

Phase 4. Assemble and FIT the Parts using Gaskets and Screws etc.
.

I believe after the Cat ten run is completed , Then other Cat model Carbs will follow .
So , if people need carbs for other model tractors ,post up so we can gauge the amount of interest .
.
[/quote]

What kind of “expression of interest “ are you looking for?
I’m a little confused how the phases figure into that expression. Is that just your planned development approach or are you proposing to deliver carbs at these 4 levels of completion?

1) I’m interested in either a full carb or a parts kit.
2) what would they cost shipped to California?
[quote="Djmayer"]What kind of “expression of interest “ are you looking for?
I’m a little confused how the phases figure into that expression. Is that just your planned development approach or are you proposing to deliver carbs at these 4 levels of completion?

1) I’m interested in either a full carb or a parts kit.
2) what would they cost shipped to California?[/quote]

Good to see you edited the post . When i read it yesterday , i could not make heads or tails of what you were trying to say .
The way it normally works . Cost is not known until they are basically made .
The more people wanting them , the cheaper the final price is .
It will not be cheap . but then it will not be overpriced with a huge profit margin .
Unfortunately there is usually tyre kickers that say they want one , but when the time comes to put their hands in their pocket their arms get short and can't reach their wallets .
Just looked on Ebay , here in Australia . A new 350 Holley carby can cost nearly a thousand dollars .Plenty of them advertised . But no brand new 90 year old Cat 10 carbs .
So you put your hand up and say yes i would like one . When they are ready to ship you will be given the price with shipping .You will be given the opportunity to buy things like Brass plates etc . If your happy with the price . you say yes , and send the money , and it will be shipped to you .
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Wed, Aug 19, 2020 6:55 PM
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[quote="Djmayer"]What kind of “expression of interest “ are you looking for?
I’m a little confused how the phases figure into that expression. Is that just your planned development approach or are you proposing to deliver carbs at these 4 levels of completion?

1) I’m interested in either a full carb or a parts kit.
2) what would they cost shipped to California?[/quote]

Good to see you edited the post . When i read it yesterday , i could not make heads or tails of what you were trying to say .
The way it normally works . Cost is not known until they are basically made .
The more people wanting them , the cheaper the final price is .
It will not be cheap . but then it will not be overpriced with a huge profit margin .
Unfortunately there is usually tyre kickers that say they want one , but when the time comes to put their hands in their pocket their arms get short and can't reach their wallets .
Just looked on Ebay , here in Australia . A new 350 Holley carby can cost nearly a thousand dollars .Plenty of them advertised . But no brand new 90 year old Cat 10 carbs .
So you put your hand up and say yes i would like one . When they are ready to ship you will be given the price with shipping .You will be given the opportunity to buy things like Brass plates etc . If your happy with the price . you say yes , and send the money , and it will be shipped to you .
[quote="ianoz"]Good to see you edited the post . When i read it yesterday , i could not make heads or tails of what you were trying to say .
The way it normally works . Cost is not known until they are basically made .
The more people wanting them , the cheaper the final price is .
It will not be cheap . but then it will not be overpriced with a huge profit margin .
Unfortunately there is usually tyre kickers that say they want one , but when the time comes to put their hands in their pocket their arms get short and can't reach their wallets .
Just looked on Ebay , here in Australia . A new 350 Holley carby can cost nearly a thousand dollars .Plenty of them advertised . But no brand new 90 year old Cat 10 carbs .
So you put your hand up and say yes i would like one . When they are ready to ship you will be given the price with shipping .You will be given the opportunity to buy things like Brass plates etc . If your happy with the price . you say yes , and send the money , and it will be shipped to you .[/quote]

hi Ianoz,i understand its difficult to estimate final cost but that response doesn't give a potential buyer any idea of cost?

-this side of the pond, $1000 buys a very good carby, probably even a 4 bbl race carb:nod:
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Wed, Aug 19, 2020 10:25 PM
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Hi Ian,

Further to the notes above, I would be grateful if you would share with me, either here, or via a PM, your reasons for not wanting to re-join.
If we do not understand why people do not wish to rejoin or renew their membership then we have no information to allow us to review the offering we make to members and see if we can fulfill their needs.

Best Regards, John
[quote="gauntjoh"]Hi Ian,

Further to the notes above, I would be grateful if you would share with me, either here, or via a PM, your reasons for not wanting to re-join.
If we do not understand why people do not wish to rejoin or renew their membership then we have no information to allow us to review the offering we make to members and see if we can fulfill their needs.

Best Regards, John[/quote]

When i get time i will reply on your other thread John .
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Thu, Aug 20, 2020 3:10 PM
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[quote="gauntjoh"]Hi Ian,

Further to the notes above, I would be grateful if you would share with me, either here, or via a PM, your reasons for not wanting to re-join.
If we do not understand why people do not wish to rejoin or renew their membership then we have no information to allow us to review the offering we make to members and see if we can fulfill their needs.

Best Regards, John[/quote]

When i get time i will reply on your other thread John .
Update direct from horses mouth .
IanOz, Update the ACMOC thread. Been many many Hands UP on Cat-Cave Forum for these Carbs for Car 10 / 15 small 20 8c / Pony Version for Early Pony Motor Carbs The 3 Cylinder Diesel Early Pony Carb SETUP and Cat 20 and Cat 30 Bronze Carbs. And the Later Alu Carbs being Cast in LM36 Automotive Modern Grade Alu (Not the Zinc Pot Metal as Original)..

Estimate on Bev 1 Carb Project is looking about $ 680.00 Delivered to your Door State Side USA Complete New Carb including Shipping USA State Side. Cat 20 and Cat 30 Carbs will be in the Same Cost Area.
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