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mtgstuber
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Hi folks, I realize this is hardly antique, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the CAT 3044C DIT engine? There's a used 287B in my area that's available. The wife has wanted a skid steer for some time, and this is one I just might be able to live with. If nothing else it's the right color. Any thoughts on the service life on these engines? Anybody worked with one of these beasts?
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Sun, Nov 29, 2009 12:12 PM
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My Cat SNID book doesn,t show a 3044 engine but my book only goes to 12/99 so if there was one it was made after that. It does show a 3054 and is a Perkins engine according to the book and Cat did use other brand engines in later years I see.
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Sun, Nov 29, 2009 6:34 PM
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Reply to SJ:
My Cat SNID book doesn,t show a 3044 engine but my book only goes to 12/99 so if there was one it was made after that. It does show a 3054 and is a Perkins engine according to the book and Cat did use other brand engines in later years I see.
SJ it's a perkins or mitsubishi, not sure which.
Later Bob
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Sun, Nov 29, 2009 7:48 PM
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SJ it's a perkins or mitsubishi, not sure which.
Later Bob
Cat skid-steer "B" series models are powered by the following ..

Perkins .. 216, 232, 226, 242, 247, 257 ..

Mitsubishi .. 236, 252, 267, 246, 248, 262, 268, 277, 287 ..

There's nothing wrong with either brand of engine. The 3044 is a 3.3L Mitsubishi with Cat decals. Cat own a large shareholding in Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and have been in bed with Mitsubishi since they commenced a Joint Venture in Japan in 1963.

Since it is against Japanese law for any company operating in Japan to be majority-foreign owned, Caterpillar use JV's operating under different company names to work with Mitsubishi, manufacturing in JV factories, and in partnership in dealerships, and distribution arrangements.

Cat and Mitsubishi share design ideas, Mitsubishi build Cat products in JV-owned factories, Mitsubishi supply components to Cat under subcontract.
The tie-up between Cat and Mitsubishi, in their JV's, is intense, and far-reaching.

Some people have been writing up BS on forums about Cat owning 61% of Mitsubishi, and they claim Cat saved Mitsubishi's a$$. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mitsubishi is one of the 5 original great Trading Houses of Japan that have been in existence since the 17th century, and in fact is the largest of those Trading Houses .. and Cat probably owe more to Mitsubishi than Mitsubishi owe to Cat .. because without Mitsubishi, Cat would never have even got a foot in the door, into manufacturing and trading in Japan, and S.E. Asia.

The Mitsubishi Trading House encompasses Banking, Trading, Manufacturing, Investment, Mining, Oil & Gas, Shipping, Transportation, Defence & Space Industries, Industrial Chemicals, Food, Textiles, and General Merchandise. The Mitsubishi Group is huge, and when you speak of Mitsubishi, you could speak of any one of the 6 main divisions, and probably 20 different arms of the Mitsubishi Corporation. They are into everything, and are enormously wealthy. Not many people realise that Mitsubishi Corporation own Isuzu .. as well as Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
They aren't are wealthy as they once were, because of the Asian economic bubble of 1997 .. but they are still very wealthy and a force to be reckoned with.

Mitsubishi's manufacturing divisions .. be they car, truck, earthmover, engineering plant, household whitegoods, or any one of a hundred other manufactured products .. are but only a part of the Mitsubishi Corporation giant. In general, most of their products are quite satisfactory, and you will rarely hear of any major problems with Mitsubishi diesel engines.

Mitsubishi Corporation .. http://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/bg/

The Mitsubishi Organisational chart .. http://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/about/org/pdf/org_chart_e.pdf

As regards Perkins .. the answer is more straightforward. Cat own Perkins 100%, and have done, since they purchased the entire company in 1997.
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Sun, Nov 29, 2009 9:45 PM
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Cat skid-steer "B" series models are powered by the following ..

Perkins .. 216, 232, 226, 242, 247, 257 ..

Mitsubishi .. 236, 252, 267, 246, 248, 262, 268, 277, 287 ..

There's nothing wrong with either brand of engine. The 3044 is a 3.3L Mitsubishi with Cat decals. Cat own a large shareholding in Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and have been in bed with Mitsubishi since they commenced a Joint Venture in Japan in 1963.

Since it is against Japanese law for any company operating in Japan to be majority-foreign owned, Caterpillar use JV's operating under different company names to work with Mitsubishi, manufacturing in JV factories, and in partnership in dealerships, and distribution arrangements.

Cat and Mitsubishi share design ideas, Mitsubishi build Cat products in JV-owned factories, Mitsubishi supply components to Cat under subcontract.
The tie-up between Cat and Mitsubishi, in their JV's, is intense, and far-reaching.

Some people have been writing up BS on forums about Cat owning 61% of Mitsubishi, and they claim Cat saved Mitsubishi's a$$. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mitsubishi is one of the 5 original great Trading Houses of Japan that have been in existence since the 17th century, and in fact is the largest of those Trading Houses .. and Cat probably owe more to Mitsubishi than Mitsubishi owe to Cat .. because without Mitsubishi, Cat would never have even got a foot in the door, into manufacturing and trading in Japan, and S.E. Asia.

The Mitsubishi Trading House encompasses Banking, Trading, Manufacturing, Investment, Mining, Oil & Gas, Shipping, Transportation, Defence & Space Industries, Industrial Chemicals, Food, Textiles, and General Merchandise. The Mitsubishi Group is huge, and when you speak of Mitsubishi, you could speak of any one of the 6 main divisions, and probably 20 different arms of the Mitsubishi Corporation. They are into everything, and are enormously wealthy. Not many people realise that Mitsubishi Corporation own Isuzu .. as well as Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
They aren't are wealthy as they once were, because of the Asian economic bubble of 1997 .. but they are still very wealthy and a force to be reckoned with.

Mitsubishi's manufacturing divisions .. be they car, truck, earthmover, engineering plant, household whitegoods, or any one of a hundred other manufactured products .. are but only a part of the Mitsubishi Corporation giant. In general, most of their products are quite satisfactory, and you will rarely hear of any major problems with Mitsubishi diesel engines.

Mitsubishi Corporation .. http://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/bg/

The Mitsubishi Organisational chart .. http://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/about/org/pdf/org_chart_e.pdf

As regards Perkins .. the answer is more straightforward. Cat own Perkins 100%, and have done, since they purchased the entire company in 1997.
You can have anything from a Mitsubishi (Three Diamond) pencil, to a Mitsubishi built ship.
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