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BrandonCrose
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I have a D7D 17A series I need to pull a link out of the track to shorten it up - found the master pin (the one with the indention in the center) pins are froze. I'm going to cut them - is the master pin any different shape or size? Just wondering if the link where the master pin is located is the same size as the links next to it.
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Basically my question is what is tge difference between the master pin and others?
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Sun, Mar 2, 2014 3:29 AM
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Basically my question is what is tge difference between the master pin and others?
Hi Brandon,
the scans below from a Servicemen's Reference Book should answer your question for both sealed and unsealed styles of Master Pin.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sun, Mar 2, 2014 6:35 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Brandon,
the scans below from a Servicemen's Reference Book should answer your question for both sealed and unsealed styles of Master Pin.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Where are you located? I have a pin press.
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Sun, Mar 2, 2014 10:10 AM
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Where are you located? I have a pin press.
Brandon
If you study the diagram you will see there is more to it than just cutting out the track link with a torch and driving in a new pin.
If the tracks are worn enough that you think a link must be removed, you may need to have all the pins and bushings turned in the whole track assembly.

I am sure others will post their opinion on this topic.
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Sun, Mar 2, 2014 12:02 PM
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If you cut the link with the master bushing, then you have to shorten the regular bushing to make it a master bushing. Not too hard, torch it off and grind it smooth. Or just torch the other link (the one that the master pin was driven through) I expect the master pin is going to be easier to get out in the end, so unless you're good at burning the pin out, try to heat the links up and drive the master out. You need a big hammer, weight is your friend here. 12 or 16 pound is better. Also a good driver, not too hard to shatter and send shrapnel flying, but not too soft either. A section of axel shaft out of a pickup is about right. It needs a holder, either a trusting friend holding a shock absorbing handle on it or a sleeve to bolt/clamp to the track pad to hold it in line so you can really swing on it. Old CAT skinner here has a railroad spike hammer that he uses for a driver along with a 16 pound sledge. It'll take them out.

How long you'll get out of cutting a link out is very dependent on lots of local conditions. Case in point, we had a 9U that was adjusted all the way out and even a bit too far. Bushings had very little external wear because we're on a clay soil with almost no sand around anywhere. The dozer or at least hose tracks, have been here since new. Paying to turn the pins and bushings was not in the budget and it's not like they bushings are anywhere close to shattering/wearing into the pins, so I cut a link out of each track. D7E on the other hand has spent a lot of time elsewhere before we got it with worn out tracks. One track the bushing were shattering they were so thin. No need to cut a link out of that one!
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Sun, Mar 2, 2014 12:21 PM
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If you cut the link with the master bushing, then you have to shorten the regular bushing to make it a master bushing. Not too hard, torch it off and grind it smooth. Or just torch the other link (the one that the master pin was driven through) I expect the master pin is going to be easier to get out in the end, so unless you're good at burning the pin out, try to heat the links up and drive the master out. You need a big hammer, weight is your friend here. 12 or 16 pound is better. Also a good driver, not too hard to shatter and send shrapnel flying, but not too soft either. A section of axel shaft out of a pickup is about right. It needs a holder, either a trusting friend holding a shock absorbing handle on it or a sleeve to bolt/clamp to the track pad to hold it in line so you can really swing on it. Old CAT skinner here has a railroad spike hammer that he uses for a driver along with a 16 pound sledge. It'll take them out.

How long you'll get out of cutting a link out is very dependent on lots of local conditions. Case in point, we had a 9U that was adjusted all the way out and even a bit too far. Bushings had very little external wear because we're on a clay soil with almost no sand around anywhere. The dozer or at least hose tracks, have been here since new. Paying to turn the pins and bushings was not in the budget and it's not like they bushings are anywhere close to shattering/wearing into the pins, so I cut a link out of each track. D7E on the other hand has spent a lot of time elsewhere before we got it with worn out tracks. One track the bushing were shattering they were so thin. No need to cut a link out of that one!
[size=3]I have had success cutting links instead of pressing pins. Remove the track pads as necessary, then carefully mark and cut the link. Make a cut through the bolt hole side of the link on one side of the vertical bar in the center of the link, then through the vertical bar of the link, and finally though the wear side of the link on the opposite side of the vertical bar. Cut the other link to match, then bolt the pad on to hold spliced link together and weld it. You can even weld the pad to the link for extra strength if desired. If you are unsure of your skills, a welder can be hired rather than hauling the tracks to a press.
Years ago I bought a very good set of used sealed and lubricated tracks for a D6D 20X series(39 link, long roller frame) machine and used the method described above to remove three links so they would fit a D6D 4X series(36 link, standard roller frame) machine. I did this cutting and welding a little at a time so as not to damage the seals. I ran these S.A.L.T. tracks until they were worn out and had no failures.
Good Luck.[/size]
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