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Just bought 47 oliver button grease fittings ??

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OLDBLUECAT
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I posted a couple weeks ago i was looking at buying a old oliver dozer. I got her home sunday ordered some manuals on ebay. My manual says the button grease fittings on the track rollers has a special fitting that pushes anywhere from 40w to 70w gear oil into the fittings. I bought the new fitting today at a john deere shop and one of there mechanics told me you just hook the fitting to my regular grease gun and push regular grease into the button fittings. Anybody have any advice on this or has anyone had this problem, and ideas?? Thanks oldbluecat
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 9:37 AM
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lets see what u got
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 9:46 AM
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That is not likely the case. Rollers usually have reservoir pockets internally that require a lube that will flow. There is also the risk of blowing seals if you get carried away with a grease gun. A hand operated "volume pump" is generally used that will pump the lube at low pressure to where you can feel resistance when the roller is full.
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 9:54 AM
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Hey OldBlueCat,

I too use the fitting on my grease gun, but I caution you. The old volumetric pumps is what should be used. I have used grease for around ten years now and haven't had anything bad happen. The risk is too much pressure blowing your seals out. Easy dose it. That's what I was told, respected, and have done, just given them an ever slight shot of grease. Too much and you'll blow the seals.
Glen
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 9:59 AM
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Hey OldBlueCat,

I too use the fitting on my grease gun, but I caution you. The old volumetric pumps is what should be used. I have used grease for around ten years now and haven't had anything bad happen. The risk is too much pressure blowing your seals out. Easy dose it. That's what I was told, respected, and have done, just given them an ever slight shot of grease. Too much and you'll blow the seals.
Glen
Hi, OldBlueCat.
Congrats on your 'new' acquisition.

Both OM and 7UPuller have given good advice - DON'T over-pressurize. If my memory serves me right, back in the days when it was an issue at work - pre lifetime lubed track rollers - we used to use what was called a semi-fluid chassis grease. It was a sticky green goo that would not sit in a heap like grease but would not spread itself out to the extent that oil does. Getting it off of anything was like getting that proverbial 'other stuff' off a blanket, it didn't freeze even to jelly consistency unless there was a pretty serious frost and it didn't turn to soup in the heat. I think it was called Caltex Marfak Double O chassis grease and I would put it somewhere between about 180 weight gear oil and warm blackjack. Track rollers and idlers seemed to LOVE it and it would pump relatively easily through one of the old volume guns that were standard issue with crawlers back in those days.I can remember as a kid, about 11 or 12, sitting there scraping the last dregs of the goo out of a 5 lb tin into a volume gun so that I could grease the rollers and idlers on Dad's Cat 22. Once a day, at midday, do a lap of the tracks, while it was warm(er), and you were good to go.

If you are going to use a grease gun to do it, be VERY aware of ANY increase in resistance as you are pumping it in and STOPP as soon as you feel any increase. This increase in resistance was a lot easier to feel with a volume gun 'cos of the lesser pressure that they could exert.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 12:27 PM
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Hi, OldBlueCat.
Congrats on your 'new' acquisition.

Both OM and 7UPuller have given good advice - DON'T over-pressurize. If my memory serves me right, back in the days when it was an issue at work - pre lifetime lubed track rollers - we used to use what was called a semi-fluid chassis grease. It was a sticky green goo that would not sit in a heap like grease but would not spread itself out to the extent that oil does. Getting it off of anything was like getting that proverbial 'other stuff' off a blanket, it didn't freeze even to jelly consistency unless there was a pretty serious frost and it didn't turn to soup in the heat. I think it was called Caltex Marfak Double O chassis grease and I would put it somewhere between about 180 weight gear oil and warm blackjack. Track rollers and idlers seemed to LOVE it and it would pump relatively easily through one of the old volume guns that were standard issue with crawlers back in those days.I can remember as a kid, about 11 or 12, sitting there scraping the last dregs of the goo out of a 5 lb tin into a volume gun so that I could grease the rollers and idlers on Dad's Cat 22. Once a day, at midday, do a lap of the tracks, while it was warm(er), and you were good to go.

If you are going to use a grease gun to do it, be VERY aware of ANY increase in resistance as you are pumping it in and STOPP as soon as you feel any increase. This increase in resistance was a lot easier to feel with a volume gun 'cos of the lesser pressure that they could exert.

Just my 0.02.
And then after being careful paying attention to pressure as Deas and 7uppuller said we always took a suitable tool and pushed the button in to relieve any pressure we created.
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 5:02 PM
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And then after being careful paying attention to pressure as Deas and 7uppuller said we always took a suitable tool and pushed the button in to relieve any pressure we created.
If you make use of the pressure release function on the "volume filler" you don't need to do that. Cuts down on the mess too.
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Sun, Aug 23, 2015 10:26 PM
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If you make use of the pressure release function on the "volume filler" you don't need to do that. Cuts down on the mess too.
You are correct OM, pushing the button was always a double check, and it hardly lets any out.

However, your comment re the release on the pump is important and has not been mentioned earlier, it should have been.
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