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Is this a Caterpillar prototype?

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gwhdiesel75
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A bit of a mystery. It runs well. Found in Jim Zimmerman's yard in Orchard, Iowa.
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 5:17 AM
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Hi, Gwhdiesel75.
That is a Cat Sixty Five crawler but I have no idea what that engine might be. I'd just about bet that it has had a heart transplant at some stage in its life. When I first looked at the right side of the engine, I thought 'Jimmy' diesel, but I have never seen a 'Jimmy' Diesel with all the clutter of air cleaners that is on that engine on the left side. Still, I have been known to be wrong and I don't claim encyclopaedic knowledge of the breed.

BTW, was that another Sixty Five standing alongside this one in one of your photos?

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 5:36 AM
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Hi, Gwhdiesel75.
That is a Cat Sixty Five crawler but I have no idea what that engine might be. I'd just about bet that it has had a heart transplant at some stage in its life. When I first looked at the right side of the engine, I thought 'Jimmy' diesel, but I have never seen a 'Jimmy' Diesel with all the clutter of air cleaners that is on that engine on the left side. Still, I have been known to be wrong and I don't claim encyclopaedic knowledge of the breed.

BTW, was that another Sixty Five standing alongside this one in one of your photos?
With that screamer on there it ought to be the fastest cat around. Don't forget your ear plugs😄
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:02 AM
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With that screamer on there it ought to be the fastest cat around. Don't forget your ear plugs😄
Hi, Gwhdiesel75.
That engine also has some similarities to some Mercedes Benz diesels that I have seen and it was a Benz diesel that Cat engineers used as a model for the first Cat diesels that went into the Cat Sixtys back in 1931-32.

So when are you going back to clear up the mystery? Or do YOU already know the answer?

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:19 AM
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With that screamer on there it ought to be the fastest cat around. Don't forget your ear plugs😄
I think surely a 71 jimmy but sure looked odd at first.I think we are just not used to seeing one mounted that high which makes the air box covers seem odd, and then the 3 pac low profile air cleaners seem odd too but the wide exhaust runners,water pump location,and cast in gussets above the pan rail are very characteristic of the jimmy and are not present on the 6-110 series.I looked at pics of the Harnischfeger 2 stroke uniflow diesel and no way is it close to what we see.
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:25 AM
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I think surely a 71 jimmy but sure looked odd at first.I think we are just not used to seeing one mounted that high which makes the air box covers seem odd, and then the 3 pac low profile air cleaners seem odd too but the wide exhaust runners,water pump location,and cast in gussets above the pan rail are very characteristic of the jimmy and are not present on the 6-110 series.I looked at pics of the Harnischfeger 2 stroke uniflow diesel and no way is it close to what we see.
I think that it is a 6-71 Detroit even though the 3 air cleaners are odd the blower on the engine is right under the triple filter housing. The 6 plates on the exaust side are a dead give away to me. Just my 2 cents. Jason
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:59 AM
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I think that it is a 6-71 Detroit even though the 3 air cleaners are odd the blower on the engine is right under the triple filter housing. The 6 plates on the exaust side are a dead give away to me. Just my 2 cents. Jason
She's a Sixty Five, and that's a Detroit 6-71, no doubt about it. The aircleaners are a little unusual .. I'm thinking a marine 6-71 aircleaner setup?? ..

Man, thats some oddball repower. Looks like they parked the Sixty Five besides a Tournapull one dark night, and they mated .. 😄
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:05 PM
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She's a Sixty Five, and that's a Detroit 6-71, no doubt about it. The aircleaners are a little unusual .. I'm thinking a marine 6-71 aircleaner setup?? ..

Man, thats some oddball repower. Looks like they parked the Sixty Five besides a Tournapull one dark night, and they mated .. 😄
Those look like old oil bath aircleaners, possible from some railroad application. That could be a 6-110 DETROIT. I don't see a fuel pump on the end of the blower where it should be on a 6-71.
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:00 PM
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She's a Sixty Five, and that's a Detroit 6-71, no doubt about it. The aircleaners are a little unusual .. I'm thinking a marine 6-71 aircleaner setup?? ..

Man, thats some oddball repower. Looks like they parked the Sixty Five besides a Tournapull one dark night, and they mated .. 😄
[quote="OzDozer"]She's a Sixty Five, and that's a Detroit 6-71, no doubt about it. The aircleaners are a little unusual .. I'm thinking a marine 6-71 aircleaner setup?? ..

Man, thats some oddball repower. Looks like they parked the Sixty Five besides a Tournapull one dark night, and they mated .. 😄[/quote]

You're right OZ, and it's in situations like this that I can see justification for abortion.Ya know what I mean, if they had just put a pony motor on it and painted the engine yellow--------
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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:40 PM
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[quote="OzDozer"]She's a Sixty Five, and that's a Detroit 6-71, no doubt about it. The aircleaners are a little unusual .. I'm thinking a marine 6-71 aircleaner setup?? ..

Man, thats some oddball repower. Looks like they parked the Sixty Five besides a Tournapull one dark night, and they mated .. 😄[/quote]

You're right OZ, and it's in situations like this that I can see justification for abortion.Ya know what I mean, if they had just put a pony motor on it and painted the engine yellow--------
I think I'd be fairly certain in saying that the engine is not a GM 6-110.
The 6-110 has a distinctive combined manifold and muffler, that was peculiar to that model.
Take a look at the 6-110 in these pics of the old A-C HD20's on the Van Natta Bros website, and you'll see what I mean ..

http://www.vannattabros.com/dozer15.html
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Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:23 AM
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I think I'd be fairly certain in saying that the engine is not a GM 6-110.
The 6-110 has a distinctive combined manifold and muffler, that was peculiar to that model.
Take a look at the 6-110 in these pics of the old A-C HD20's on the Van Natta Bros website, and you'll see what I mean ..

http://www.vannattabros.com/dozer15.html
Here is a picture of the purple one, Big Al the Allis Chalmers used in trucks for a while in the 60's/70's in didn't last long, plus a picture of a 6-110 both of these are set up on a trailer for shows, the 110 was used a sa truck engine for awhile but it didn't last long either the blower shafts kept breaking they didn't like the variable RPM's the made out as gen sets and such.
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