ACMOC
Login | Register
ACMOC
Hydraulic pump on D4

Hydraulic pump on D4

Showing 1 to 10 of 10 results
D4guy
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to D4guy
Posts: 27
Thank you received: 0
Hi gang,

I am new here too and I want to join the fun.

I have a D4 Traxcavator type HT4 that needs a lot of help. I have to remove the hydraulic pump in the front. There are two cap screws on each side near the bottom. I have backed them out a bit but the pump unit is still solidly fixed. Where might the remaining bolts be?

Also, how is the drive attached? Is it splined? What is the nature of the lubricated hub at the fan belt pulley?

Thanks.

D4guy
1955 D4 Traxcavator, 1926 Model T Roadster, 1930 Model A Tudor, 1940 Diamond T 201, 1954 JD 40 dozer
www.mervbergman.net
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Wed, Apr 13, 2011 8:23 PM
SpragueM
Offline
Send a private message to SpragueM
Posts: 242
Thank you received: 0
Could you post a picture of the pump? There were several types including the Caterpillar all in one unit and several after market add on pumps with separate tanks and valve units.
Does yours have the chain style coupling?

Matt
RD4,RD6 ,D73T, #11 Grader, 977F
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 4:48 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,667
Thank you received: 0
Reply to SpragueM:
Could you post a picture of the pump? There were several types including the Caterpillar all in one unit and several after market add on pumps with separate tanks and valve units.
Does yours have the chain style coupling?

Matt
The HT4 uses the two valve #44 pump. You have four more 3/4 in. studs and nuts close in to the center. It's a tight fit and you have to work the unit out as you undo the nuts. It just slides off the splined drive shaft. Get some support as the thing weighs about 250 lbs.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 6:47 AM
D4guy
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to D4guy
Posts: 27
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
The HT4 uses the two valve #44 pump. You have four more 3/4 in. studs and nuts close in to the center. It's a tight fit and you have to work the unit out as you undo the nuts. It just slides off the splined drive shaft. Get some support as the thing weighs about 250 lbs.


This is great. I will give it a try. I do have an engine lift so I can manage the weight.

Thanks a lot!!!
1955 D4 Traxcavator, 1926 Model T Roadster, 1930 Model A Tudor, 1940 Diamond T 201, 1954 JD 40 dozer
www.mervbergman.net
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 8:18 AM
Cysco
Offline
Send a private message to Cysco
Posts: 870
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
The HT4 uses the two valve #44 pump. You have four more 3/4 in. studs and nuts close in to the center. It's a tight fit and you have to work the unit out as you undo the nuts. It just slides off the splined drive shaft. Get some support as the thing weighs about 250 lbs.
D4guy,
Here is a picture of the splined shaft comming out of the 44 hydraulic pump. Note the mounting holes. The other shows the splined shaft insert on the crank side after the radiator is removed. I think it is the same/similar as yours.
Hope this helps.....Bill
Attachment
Attachment
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 8:27 AM
D4guy
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to D4guy
Posts: 27
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Cysco:
D4guy,
Here is a picture of the splined shaft comming out of the 44 hydraulic pump. Note the mounting holes. The other shows the splined shaft insert on the crank side after the radiator is removed. I think it is the same/similar as yours.
Hope this helps.....Bill
Attachment
Attachment
Thanks again for the info. about my pump.

As a side note, before I found ACMOC I had sent $28 to a web site called "Ask an Expert". My "expert", a heavy mechanic with 20 years experience was not familiar with my HT4 and was unable to tell be how to remove the pump. I did get a full refund so my membership in ACMOC was "prepaid".

Here is a photo what I am up against. Rusted and stuck cylinders. The tracks are nearly new but the Cat sat around for so long that several links are stuck. Another problem I will deal with some time.

I have this project on hold for a month or so while I finish the restoration on my 1940 Diamond T 201 flat bed truck. If interested check out http://www.mervbergman.net/diamondT/diamondT.html
Attachment
1955 D4 Traxcavator, 1926 Model T Roadster, 1930 Model A Tudor, 1940 Diamond T 201, 1954 JD 40 dozer
www.mervbergman.net
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 10:26 PM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,667
Thank you received: 0
Reply to D4guy:
Thanks again for the info. about my pump.

As a side note, before I found ACMOC I had sent $28 to a web site called "Ask an Expert". My "expert", a heavy mechanic with 20 years experience was not familiar with my HT4 and was unable to tell be how to remove the pump. I did get a full refund so my membership in ACMOC was "prepaid".

Here is a photo what I am up against. Rusted and stuck cylinders. The tracks are nearly new but the Cat sat around for so long that several links are stuck. Another problem I will deal with some time.

I have this project on hold for a month or so while I finish the restoration on my 1940 Diamond T 201 flat bed truck. If interested check out http://www.mervbergman.net/diamondT/diamondT.html
Attachment
Check the right hand rear side of the pump unit for the serial/model number and we can fix you up with the parts break down for the correct unit.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 14, 2011 10:36 PM
8C 361
Offline
Send a private message to 8C 361
Posts: 713
Thank you received: 0
Reply to D4guy:
Thanks again for the info. about my pump.

As a side note, before I found ACMOC I had sent $28 to a web site called "Ask an Expert". My "expert", a heavy mechanic with 20 years experience was not familiar with my HT4 and was unable to tell be how to remove the pump. I did get a full refund so my membership in ACMOC was "prepaid".

Here is a photo what I am up against. Rusted and stuck cylinders. The tracks are nearly new but the Cat sat around for so long that several links are stuck. Another problem I will deal with some time.

I have this project on hold for a month or so while I finish the restoration on my 1940 Diamond T 201 flat bed truck. If interested check out http://www.mervbergman.net/diamondT/diamondT.html
Attachment
[quote="D4guy"]

Here is a photo what I am up against. Rusted and stuck cylinders. The tracks are nearly new but the Cat sat around for so long that several links are stuck. Another problem I will deal with some time.
[/quote]

I see you have the head off. That is a major accomplishment in itself on an HT4. Will you be able to get into the lower end through the side covers? I will need to get into mine someday.

Your tracks are probably in good shape. Worn tracks usually don't get stuck, hopefully you can get them freed up after you get it running.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Fri, Apr 15, 2011 12:38 AM
4x6zh itzik
Offline
Send a private message to 4x6zh itzik
Posts: 85
Thank you received: 0
Reply to 8C 361:
[quote="D4guy"]

Here is a photo what I am up against. Rusted and stuck cylinders. The tracks are nearly new but the Cat sat around for so long that several links are stuck. Another problem I will deal with some time.
[/quote]

I see you have the head off. That is a major accomplishment in itself on an HT4. Will you be able to get into the lower end through the side covers? I will need to get into mine someday.

Your tracks are probably in good shape. Worn tracks usually don't get stuck, hopefully you can get them freed up after you get it running.
Maybe this picture will help you
I think you need to open the screws around

Rusted pistons release
You will have to push them
Along with the sleeves
My previous messages have some pictures of the engine in this situation

Good luck and much patience

itzik
Attachment
SpragueM
Offline
Send a private message to SpragueM
Posts: 242
Thank you received: 0
Reply to 4x6zh itzik:
Maybe this picture will help you
I think you need to open the screws around

Rusted pistons release
You will have to push them
Along with the sleeves
My previous messages have some pictures of the engine in this situation

Good luck and much patience

itzik
Attachment
You definitely have the #44 pump. I have a parts book here if you need anything. Very nice web site, would like to see the gauges installed on your truck, bet it's quite a work of art.


Matt
RD4,RD6 ,D73T, #11 Grader, 977F
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Apr 17, 2011 8:39 AM
D4guy
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to D4guy
Posts: 27
Thank you received: 0
Reply to SpragueM:
You definitely have the #44 pump. I have a parts book here if you need anything. Very nice web site, would like to see the gauges installed on your truck, bet it's quite a work of art.


Matt
[attachment=8898]IMG_6146.jpg[/attachment][attachment=8899]IMG_6142.jpg[/attachment][quote="SpragueM"]You definitely have the #44 pump. I have a parts book here if you need anything. Very nice web site, would like to see the gauges installed on your truck, bet it's quite a work of art.


Matt[/quote]

Hi Matt,

Here are a couple of photos of the truck. I am still rushing to get it roadworthy to take to the Colfax auto show May 14th.

I am really pretty pleased with how the truck has turned out. I'll drive it up to Comberland sometime and check out your collection of Cat stuff.

Regards, Merv (D4guy)
Attachment
Attachment
1955 D4 Traxcavator, 1926 Model T Roadster, 1930 Model A Tudor, 1940 Diamond T 201, 1954 JD 40 dozer
www.mervbergman.net
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Thu, Apr 28, 2011 8:09 PM
Showing 1 to 10 of 10 results
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

KORUMBURRA WORKING HORSE & TRACTOR & 100 YEARS OF CAT RALLY

Chapter Nineteen

| 5875 STH GIPPSLAND HWY, NYORA

Booleroo 2025

Chapter Thirty

| Booleroo Centre, 54 Arthur St, Booleroo Centre SA 5482, Australia

CAFES 2025 TULARE, CALIFORNIA

Chapter Fifteen

| Tulare, California

Wheatlands Warracknabeal Easter Rally

Chapter Nineteen

| 34 Henty Hwy, Warracknabeal
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I also joined a year ago. had been on here a couple of times as a non-member and found the info very helpful so I got a one year subscription (not very expensive at all) to try it out. I really like all the resources on here so I just got a three year. I think its a very small price for what you can get out of this site."
-Jason N

Join Today!