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Hello everyone from Italy. here it is very hot: =)
I am experiencing overheating in my cat 955l crawler.
After about 30 minutes the water indicator pointer rises to maximum, red zone.
There is no movement when I open the cap above the radiator.
When I switch off the crawler, looking inside the radiator cap, the coolant goes up and down, after about a minute it stops and everything is ok.
No steam, no boiling. I changed a new oil cooler over the filter, the old one was plugged
The refrigerant remains level, no air bubbles. The engine sounds great.
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Thu, Aug 1, 2019 12:24 AM
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Some things to check....
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Thu, Aug 1, 2019 1:17 AM
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it does not have a temperature controller, thermostat. could this be the problem? Without a thermostat, should you see movement in the radiator cap? sorry if I ask too many questions ..
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Thu, Aug 1, 2019 1:55 AM
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it does not have a temperature controller, thermostat. could this be the problem? Without a thermostat, should you see movement in the radiator cap? sorry if I ask too many questions ..
Requires a 9S3808 (170 degree) regulator. Heat transfer is not efficiently done if water flow is to fast through the system. May or may not see motion at fill cap if radiator has a top tank baffle. Everything needs to be correct for proper cooling.
Also check the fan drive belts and pulley wear for slippage.
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Thu, Aug 1, 2019 2:33 AM
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Requires a 9S3808 (170 degree) regulator. Heat transfer is not efficiently done if water flow is to fast through the system. May or may not see motion at fill cap if radiator has a top tank baffle. Everything needs to be correct for proper cooling.
Also check the fan drive belts and pulley wear for slippage.
[quote="Old Magnet"]Requires a 9S3808 (170 degree) regulator. Heat transfer is not efficiently done if water flow is to fast through the system. May or may not see motion at fill cap if radiator has a top tank baffle. Everything needs to be correct for proper cooling.
Also check the fan drive belts and pulley wear for slippage.[/quote]

thank you.
without you I wouldn't know how to do ...
very kind, as always
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Thu, Aug 1, 2019 2:23 PM
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[quote="Old Magnet"]Requires a 9S3808 (170 degree) regulator. Heat transfer is not efficiently done if water flow is to fast through the system. May or may not see motion at fill cap if radiator has a top tank baffle. Everything needs to be correct for proper cooling.
Also check the fan drive belts and pulley wear for slippage.[/quote]

thank you.
without you I wouldn't know how to do ...
very kind, as always
Hello.
I found two problems, a big one.
The belts are worn, from 23mm to 19mm, when the fan is running it does not rotate properly. Loses laps.
The other problem is that the radiator is partially plugged.
I removed the cap and observed with light there are traces of oil and the water inlet holes are clogged. With an awl I tried to understand how hard the cap was, and we're at the limit.
I don't want to disassemble half of a crawler.
How to clean the radiator, muriatic acid?
Thank you all ,
Simo
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Fri, Aug 2, 2019 2:44 AM
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I've tried a quart of muriatic acid in a 10 gallon system. Unfortunately it didn't stop the overheating. Might have helped soften up the stuff clogging the tubes in the radiator core though. I ended up cleaning the core by removing the top radiator tank and running a rod down each tube. Couldn't get through about 10% of them but the other 90% did the job once they were cleaned.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Fri, Aug 2, 2019 7:15 AM
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I've tried a quart of muriatic acid in a 10 gallon system. Unfortunately it didn't stop the overheating. Might have helped soften up the stuff clogging the tubes in the radiator core though. I ended up cleaning the core by removing the top radiator tank and running a rod down each tube. Couldn't get through about 10% of them but the other 90% did the job once they were cleaned.


hello thanks a lot.
Should I disconnect the inlet and outlet pipes?
Do I run the system with the engine running?
how long acidic?
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Fri, Aug 2, 2019 2:06 PM
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hello thanks a lot.
Should I disconnect the inlet and outlet pipes?
Do I run the system with the engine running?
how long acidic?
[quote="uisum"]hello thanks a lot.
Should I disconnect the inlet and outlet pipes?
Do I run the system with the engine running?
how long acidic?[/quote]
I drained the coolant, filled with water and added the muriatic acid. I ran the D6 tractor for a day before draining the water and replacing the coolant.

Like I said, it didn't make any big difference in cooling performance. I think you need to have some method of monitoring pH to determine when you need to add more acid. Big problem is the acid won't work on clogged tubes, just those that are partially clogged.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Fri, Aug 2, 2019 6:23 PM
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[quote="uisum"]hello thanks a lot.
Should I disconnect the inlet and outlet pipes?
Do I run the system with the engine running?
how long acidic?[/quote]
I drained the coolant, filled with water and added the muriatic acid. I ran the D6 tractor for a day before draining the water and replacing the coolant.

Like I said, it didn't make any big difference in cooling performance. I think you need to have some method of monitoring pH to determine when you need to add more acid. Big problem is the acid won't work on clogged tubes, just those that are partially clogged.
[quote="ccjersey"]I drained the coolant, filled with water and added the muriatic acid. I ran the D6 tractor for a day before draining the water and replacing the coolant.

Like I said, it didn't make any big difference in cooling performance. I think you need to have some method of monitoring pH to determine when you need to add more acid. Big problem is the acid won't work on clogged tubes, just those that are partially clogged.[/quote]
Ok. I try . Thk
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Fri, Aug 2, 2019 7:22 PM
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