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How to load a trailing plow on a trailer

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Folks, I want to use a 3 or 4 bottom plow behind my D2 and I need to transport it between acreages. I'm having a hard time thinking through how I'd load it on to the trailer because it seems like they're not very easy to back up on the flat ground, let alone up a trailer's ramps. Could anyone please enlighten me on how I could load the plow? I have a 24' gooseneck which might not be the best trailer for this use case
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 5:54 AM
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Also, would anyone happen to know of a chisel plow that would be suitable behind a D2? I have remote hydraulics to operate a cylinder on the implement
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 5:55 AM
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I've done a ton of antique plow days with trailer type of plows.  There isn't an easy answer.  The model of plow makes a difference because while none of them back up easy some are better than others.  What I have found is the best backing plow is an IH #70 with the full castering tail wheel.  The worst I have had are the #8 IH plows.  Deere and Oliver plows are a little iffy.  You have to be really careful with Deere plows that you don't break the casting when the lock pin is in the tail wheel pivot.  Frankly the easiest thing to do is set the plow on the front of the trailer with a loader and pull it off where you are plowing and then drive on pulling the plow behind the tractor when you load on location and set the plow off with a loader before unloading the tractor.
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 6:11 AM
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I've done a ton of antique plow days with trailer type of plows.  There isn't an easy answer.  The model of plow makes a difference because while none of them back up easy some are better than others.  What I have found is the best backing plow is an IH #70 with the full castering tail wheel.  The worst I have had are the #8 IH plows.  Deere and Oliver plows are a little iffy.  You have to be really careful with Deere plows that you don't break the casting when the lock pin is in the tail wheel pivot.  Frankly the easiest thing to do is set the plow on the front of the trailer with a loader and pull it off where you are plowing and then drive on pulling the plow behind the tractor when you load on location and set the plow off with a loader before unloading the tractor.
Thanks CRS, I wondered about that, thinking maybe I should put some kind of a hoist on the front of the trailer to lift it off with, or maybe a light aluminum a-frame that can lift the plow, and then drive the trailer out from under it, then fold the a-frame down and put it on the trailer as well
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 6:19 AM
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Thanks CRS, I wondered about that, thinking maybe I should put some kind of a hoist on the front of the trailer to lift it off with, or maybe a light aluminum a-frame that can lift the plow, and then drive the trailer out from under it, then fold the a-frame down and put it on the trailer as well
Down in California everybody uses over head straddle carryalls easy and quick and no loading on trailers which I hate 17afarmer
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 6:43 AM
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Thanks CRS, I wondered about that, thinking maybe I should put some kind of a hoist on the front of the trailer to lift it off with, or maybe a light aluminum a-frame that can lift the plow, and then drive the trailer out from under it, then fold the a-frame down and put it on the trailer as well
If you have a full width ramp and an electric winch you can carefully pull them on backwards with the tail wheel locked.  It is just hard to keep them straight.  I thought about making a dolly to set the tail wheel in so that I wouldn't have to fight it.
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 7:04 AM
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If you have a full width ramp and an electric winch you can carefully pull them on backwards with the tail wheel locked.  It is just hard to keep them straight.  I thought about making a dolly to set the tail wheel in so that I wouldn't have to fight it.
In me experience a big issue is the lack of underbody clearance which means the bodies ground on the beavertail. If you have a tractor with a front loader, pick up the rear of the plough with the loader and push it up the beavertail onto the bed, front first.
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 8:34 AM
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In me experience a big issue is the lack of underbody clearance which means the bodies ground on the beavertail. If you have a tractor with a front loader, pick up the rear of the plough with the loader and push it up the beavertail onto the bed, front first.
That idea using the winch with a dolly seems the most feasible with the least extra equipment, I'm mounting a winch on the gooseneck anyway so that's half the job done. I'll look into that - thanks for the idea
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 9:39 AM
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That idea using the winch with a dolly seems the most feasible with the least extra equipment, I'm mounting a winch on the gooseneck anyway so that's half the job done. I'll look into that - thanks for the idea
Not hard to do with the D2 as long you have a tipping frailer you need the plough drawbar in a straight line with plough beams and tractor drawbar locked in the centre line it up strait and Boxbs your uncle will try and find some photos cold here at the moment about 8c today with frost tonite minus 4c
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Thu, Jul 4, 2024 2:25 PM
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How I move my plows. I leave them unless needed elsewhere. The JD and the Case have removable hitches to pull with a pickup truck. Straddle carriers are handy for hard to move implements. JM
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How I move my plows. I leave them unless needed elsewhere. The JD and the Case have removable hitches to pull with a pickup truck. Straddle carriers are handy for hard to move implements. JM
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most modern drawbar pulled gear in aus is foldable or has rams to raise and lower the wheels so you can get the plow shares clear of the ground all to ease this "fun".

some kind of dolly would work that you place on the ground and then drag the implement over it. chain or straps binders to secure it to the dolly then you could drag it up on the trailer either with the tractor or the winch.

"i reject your reality and substitute my own" - adam savage. i suspect my final words maybe "well shit, that didnt work"

instead of perfection some times we just have to accept practicality

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