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Hi-sprocket Drive Grand-daddy???????????

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Deas Plant.
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Hi, Folks.
Could this be the Great GREAT Grand-daddy of the hi-sprocket drive - a Holt ditcher from 1910? There was the Best 30 humpback in 1916 and the Cletrac Model F in 1920 on to the Cat D10 76X in 1977.

[attachment=71399]Holt ditcher with hi-sprocket drive 1910_1L_YT.jpg[/attachment]

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Thu, Mar 9, 2023 9:06 AM
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Here is a 1920 narrow gauge Cletrac Model F
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Fri, Mar 10, 2023 9:25 AM
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Here is a 1920 narrow gauge Cletrac Model F
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Both interesting machines. My dad had a model F like that one, very interesting track roller system on them.
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Fri, Mar 10, 2023 9:28 AM
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Hi, gary,ca and Kurt.
The Model F Cletrac was only made for 3 years because of that track roller system, commonly known as the 'string of pearls' systemmwhich they never used on any other model after the F. The Model F was available in 3 versions, narrow, wide and hi-clearance.

Somebody found a 'different' use for one of them:

[attachment=71408]Cletrac model F Letterbox_1_PM.JPG[/attachment]

Apparently, a couple of people did figure it out though and modified the track system.

[attachment=71409]Cletrac model F with HG track frames_1BL_JRS.jpg[/attachment][attachment=71410]Cletrac Model F with modified tracks - Australia 2005_1L_SS.jpg[/attachment]

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Fri, Mar 10, 2023 11:42 AM
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Hi, gary,ca and Kurt.
The Model F Cletrac was only made for 3 years because of that track roller system, commonly known as the 'string of pearls' systemmwhich they never used on any other model after the F. The Model F was available in 3 versions, narrow, wide and hi-clearance.

Somebody found a 'different' use for one of them:

[attachment=71408]Cletrac model F Letterbox_1_PM.JPG[/attachment]

Apparently, a couple of people did figure it out though and modified the track system.

[attachment=71409]Cletrac model F with HG track frames_1BL_JRS.jpg[/attachment][attachment=71410]Cletrac Model F with modified tracks - Australia 2005_1L_SS.jpg[/attachment]

Just my 0.02.
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Bit like the track system that ran on big balls instead of conventional rollers, they used to fall out. For the life of me I cant remember the brand name or find a photo. Someone here will be much smarter than me and remember and possibly have a photo.

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Fri, Mar 10, 2023 2:28 PM
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Bit like the track system that ran on big balls instead of conventional rollers, they used to fall out. For the life of me I cant remember the brand name or find a photo. Someone here will be much smarter than me and remember and possibly have a photo.

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I know where that mailbox lawn ornament is.
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Bit like the track system that ran on big balls instead of conventional rollers, they used to fall out. For the life of me I cant remember the brand name or find a photo. Someone here will be much smarter than me and remember and possibly have a photo.

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[quote="Wombat post=246245 userid=4746"]Bit like the track system that ran on big balls instead of conventional rollers, they used to fall out. For the life of me I cant remember the brand name or find a photo. Someone here will be much smarter than me and remember and possibly have a photo.

Wombat

***I want to say Yuba Ball Tread. They would fall out, and some owners would hire kids to look for the balls that fell off, so they could keep running the machine***JM
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[quote="Wombat post=246245 userid=4746"]Bit like the track system that ran on big balls instead of conventional rollers, they used to fall out. For the life of me I cant remember the brand name or find a photo. Someone here will be much smarter than me and remember and possibly have a photo.

Wombat

***I want to say Yuba Ball Tread. They would fall out, and some owners would hire kids to look for the balls that fell off, so they could keep running the machine***JM
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Hi, juiceman.
Yep, made just over your back fence, pie-in-the-sky stuff before they had much understanding of lubricants or of the wearing effects of various soils.

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Fri, Mar 10, 2023 10:53 PM
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Yuba Ball Tread - Mfg. Yuba City, California
There are several examples in existance - I believe this one may be in the Ag Museum in Woodland, may have been part of the Heidrick Collection.
Another is in a Museum in Old Sacramento, CA

I was told years ago, they were a good machine other than the races would wear and the balls would fall out. So the story goes about the kids following and picking them up to put back in the machine - Makes a good story anyway.

I do not recall what the two pipes with petcocks were attached to - I suspect either exhaust to try to clean the "cups" or possibly water?  
These machines were primarily used in the orchards along the Yuba-Feather-Sacramento Rivers, wonderful sandy loam, but abrasive.  
Understandably where the extreme wear would be generated in the enclosed space of the races.

Enjoy the pictures.
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Yuba Ball Tread - Mfg. Yuba City, California
There are several examples in existance - I believe this one may be in the Ag Museum in Woodland, may have been part of the Heidrick Collection.
Another is in a Museum in Old Sacramento, CA

I was told years ago, they were a good machine other than the races would wear and the balls would fall out. So the story goes about the kids following and picking them up to put back in the machine - Makes a good story anyway.

I do not recall what the two pipes with petcocks were attached to - I suspect either exhaust to try to clean the "cups" or possibly water?  
These machines were primarily used in the orchards along the Yuba-Feather-Sacramento Rivers, wonderful sandy loam, but abrasive.  
Understandably where the extreme wear would be generated in the enclosed space of the races.

Enjoy the pictures.
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I recall seeing one at UC Davis in 2000, perhaps that one ended up in the Heidrich collection ?
I was shown round the "Antique Mechanics Club" collection at UC Davis by none other than Sue, our treasurer !
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