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Here we go again, Caterpillar Gray paint?

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I have read the previous posts and looked at a lot of TEN's and Thirty's with different colors of gray, including TEN’s Black, Pink and White, geez! Does anyone know what Gray is correct for a 1930 TEN. I have a TEN that was Gray then yellow and last red. Now mostly rust and some faded red. If it had never been painted red I'd just leave it rust but sense it's just not right it's going back to gray.
The post that says GRAY " COLOR FOR BASE MACHINE: FEDERAL STANDARD 595B-26134 which converts to Hex #74746F" doesn't seem right as it is an olive gray that looks super on a THIRTY, but to dark on a TEN. The gray that I have uncovered looks to be a smoke gray not an olive gray. I know there are posts about this but, I'm not convinced yet.
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:15 AM
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"GRAY" COLOR FOR BASE MACHINE: FEDERAL STANDARD 595B-26134

"RED" COLOR FOR TRIM: FEDERAL STANDARD 595B-11120

TRADEMARK DECALS: RED LETTERS WITH SILVER BORDER

Note 1 - The FEDERAL STANDARDS refers to paint color standards used in the U.S. The specifications describe "color" codes, not paint mixing codes. The "color" can be mixed by all paint manufacturers for any grade of paint desired. Most local paint distributors can obtain the mixing formulae by consulting their manufacture color code reference center.
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:52 AM
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"GRAY" COLOR FOR BASE MACHINE: FEDERAL STANDARD 595B-26134

"RED" COLOR FOR TRIM: FEDERAL STANDARD 595B-11120

TRADEMARK DECALS: RED LETTERS WITH SILVER BORDER

Note 1 - The FEDERAL STANDARDS refers to paint color standards used in the U.S. The specifications describe "color" codes, not paint mixing codes. The "color" can be mixed by all paint manufacturers for any grade of paint desired. Most local paint distributors can obtain the mixing formulae by consulting their manufacture color code reference center.
Have you actually looked at a chip of 26134 or are you just assuming that old post to be correct? I have a chip of 26134 and it looks why to olive for what I believe to be correct.
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 1:10 AM
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Have you actually looked at a chip of 26134 or are you just assuming that old post to be correct? I have a chip of 26134 and it looks why to olive for what I believe to be correct.
I took the paint code to my paint rep and had a batch made and it looks to be correct
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:14 AM
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I took the paint code to my paint rep and had a batch made and it looks to be correct

Looks real good in your pictures. Maybe the small chip looks different than the larger finished product. I'll order a sample of the paint to compare. I took some pictures of the remaining original gray and averaged the RGB readings from 12 samples. The number I came up with is a few levels lighter than the 26134 with tone a little more blue than olive. Not sure how to factor in what the 81 years did to the sample area. What I came up with is hex#8C9498 H200 S8 B60
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:42 AM
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Looks real good in your pictures. Maybe the small chip looks different than the larger finished product. I'll order a sample of the paint to compare. I took some pictures of the remaining original gray and averaged the RGB readings from 12 samples. The number I came up with is a few levels lighter than the 26134 with tone a little more blue than olive. Not sure how to factor in what the 81 years did to the sample area. What I came up with is hex#8C9498 H200 S8 B60
I took the standards and went to my paint store. I had to match to a PL20 and it came in pretty good. As close as you can get. Your color under the red looks real close to what mine came out. It looked like it had some olive green when it went on and dried to what it should be. Ford used to have several colors like this.
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I took the standards and went to my paint store. I had to match to a PL20 and it came in pretty good. As close as you can get. Your color under the red looks real close to what mine came out. It looked like it had some olive green when it went on and dried to what it should be. Ford used to have several colors like this.
Terry
I just finished painting my 60 about 6 weeks ago using the paint codes from this website. I used a PPG two part paint and I think the color is great

Good Luck and happy New Year.

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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:07 AM
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I just finished painting my 60 about 6 weeks ago using the paint codes from this website. I used a PPG two part paint and I think the color is great

Good Luck and happy New Year.

Biggastractor
Hi Team,
from Service Magazine, Feb. 18 1939, page 10, an article on paints mentions there were two shades of grey used, available from Dupont Warehouses.

They were described as Silver Grey and Blue Grey. The article also mentions the Highway Yellow and that servicemen should carry a pot of each paint to touchup newly fitted parts as needed.

Just to confuse the issue, it mentions these paints were for engine parts touchup as parts were now supplied painted Highway Yellow.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:32 AM
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Hi Team,
from Service Magazine, Feb. 18 1939, page 10, an article on paints mentions there were two shades of grey used, available from Dupont Warehouses.

They were described as Silver Grey and Blue Grey. The article also mentions the Highway Yellow and that servicemen should carry a pot of each paint to touchup newly fitted parts as needed.

Just to confuse the issue, it mentions these paints were for engine parts touchup as parts were now supplied painted Highway Yellow.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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I think maybe the silver gray was for the exhaust manifolds and the blue gray was for the rest of the tractor. In the Caterpillar Diesel Seventy-Five and D8 archive book it also shows the manifolds being a silver-gray color on the Seventy-Fives.
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Mon, Jan 2, 2012 11:26 AM
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I think maybe the silver gray was for the exhaust manifolds and the blue gray was for the rest of the tractor. In the Caterpillar Diesel Seventy-Five and D8 archive book it also shows the manifolds being a silver-gray color on the Seventy-Fives.
My understanding the silver gray colour was used after yellow became the offical colour and some customers who didn't want a yellow Cat ,for an extra fee could have it painted gray.
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Tue, Jan 3, 2012 11:56 PM
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My understanding the silver gray colour was used after yellow became the offical colour and some customers who didn't want a yellow Cat ,for an extra fee could have it painted gray.
http://www.caterpillarexperience.co.nz/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2PWwOHnzeP4/S-TmsoADLOI/AAAAAAAABCI/cgtTt5RwngQ/s1600/Old+Grey+Catepillars.JPG

I found this photo of an exhibit in New Zealand while searching for the correct gray paint for a caterpillar.
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