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Helping assessing condition / value of a 9U Dozer

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raklet
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I am looking to make my first dozer purchase but I really don't have a clue as to what I am looking for or how to assess value. I know that under carriage is the most important part. I have taken some pictures of a 9U #23317. In addition to the pictures of the under carriage the owner tells me that it needs some head work. There is oil leakage in the area of number 1 piston. He thinks it is related to dirt / valve damage? Intended use is to occasionally build / rebuild terraces on sloping farmland and clear a little brush along fence lines. Any feedback would be much appreciated.


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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 12:10 PM
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Although the undercarriage is showing some wear there is plenty of life left. The real check is the stretched chain measurement as shown.
That blade bearing and trunnion is way overdue for replacement and has seen a lot of use. Those parts a readily available after market. Just need someone handy with torch and welder to replace. If you can get a part number off the links we can identify if the tracks have been up dated to 6.91" pitch from the original 6.75" or it should show with the correct stretched track measurement. I don't see anything else scarry there.
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 1:00 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
Although the undercarriage is showing some wear there is plenty of life left. The real check is the stretched chain measurement as shown.
That blade bearing and trunnion is way overdue for replacement and has seen a lot of use. Those parts a readily available after market. Just need someone handy with torch and welder to replace. If you can get a part number off the links we can identify if the tracks have been up dated to 6.91" pitch from the original 6.75" or it should show with the correct stretched track measurement. I don't see anything else scarry there.
pretty much as Old Magnet says you can see the sprocket is down a bit and carrier rollers are a bit worn but I bet theres a lot of us who have a lot worse than that I would think
but as Old Magnet says all these parts are easy to come across and there is heaps of life left in the walking gear

Paul
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 2:23 PM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
pretty much as Old Magnet says you can see the sprocket is down a bit and carrier rollers are a bit worn but I bet theres a lot of us who have a lot worse than that I would think
but as Old Magnet says all these parts are easy to come across and there is heaps of life left in the walking gear

Paul
Thanks for the responses. You guys are awesome as usual. Can anyone give me a ballpark $ estimate of worth?
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 8:58 PM
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Thanks for the responses. You guys are awesome as usual. Can anyone give me a ballpark $ estimate of worth?
A similar D6 sold for $7000 and another was only listed on craigslist a week and disappeared at the same price so I assume it sold.

Three years ago I pick one up for scrape price.Rails much thinner than yours but has very good pins and bushings and sprockets. Had to work on both steering clutches do to rust.No blade or hydraulics. As the owner had died no one knew how to start it and was in a barn that was falling down.

I think I insulted a neighbor that has a AC HD9 with blade he would sell when I said $7500 would be the top price in my opinion as AC stuff is harder to get parts for than Cat.


Then are down under friends tell us how cheap those prices sound to them. So how much are you willing to spend getting your jobs done.
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:32 PM
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The oil leak may not be a significant problem. The LONG 6 cylinder head on those tractors was noted for seeping oil and occasionally coolant out along the head gasket. I think that head was about the longest one CAT ever designed. All the larger engines had multiple smaller heads.

Anyway, lots of them have an oily mess down the side of the engine.

Looks like a nice old dozer. Have you run it?

Pony motors are frequent cause of baldness or Grey hair!! A good one is very nice. I didn't notice if that one is direct electric start or pony. Late serial number, so could very well be electric start.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:51 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
The oil leak may not be a significant problem. The LONG 6 cylinder head on those tractors was noted for seeping oil and occasionally coolant out along the head gasket. I think that head was about the longest one CAT ever designed. All the larger engines had multiple smaller heads.

Anyway, lots of them have an oily mess down the side of the engine.

Looks like a nice old dozer. Have you run it?

Pony motors are frequent cause of baldness or Grey hair!! A good one is very nice. I didn't notice if that one is direct electric start or pony. Late serial number, so could very well be electric start.
Here is my latest purchase, maybe it means I got screwed or not. Late 50's D8-14A (I'll get some pics up at some point). It is air force badged, converted to electric start and alternator system. The drivetrain is excellent, tracks rollers pins bearings gears all have light wear. It fires right up and operates as it should. It has a winch on the back that does not work. It came with new batteries (2 of those big D4 batts are not cheap). It also came with a clearing blade (that was fun moving that).

I paid $10,000 for everything plus $1700 shipping from Yakima WA to Portand OR.

Of course I would have rather had a hydraulic Cat but the price goes up substantially and I couldn't afford more, plus what was out there was not in as good condition. This will do the job I need done.
D8-14A (A work in progress)
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 10:09 PM
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Here is my latest purchase, maybe it means I got screwed or not. Late 50's D8-14A (I'll get some pics up at some point). It is air force badged, converted to electric start and alternator system. The drivetrain is excellent, tracks rollers pins bearings gears all have light wear. It fires right up and operates as it should. It has a winch on the back that does not work. It came with new batteries (2 of those big D4 batts are not cheap). It also came with a clearing blade (that was fun moving that).

I paid $10,000 for everything plus $1700 shipping from Yakima WA to Portand OR.

Of course I would have rather had a hydraulic Cat but the price goes up substantially and I couldn't afford more, plus what was out there was not in as good condition. This will do the job I need done.
If she runs good and everything works as it should I'd say the $7 to $7.5K that Ray54 mentions is about right. That late a s/n has the added bonus of provision for direct electric start (I can see the cover plate for the starter hole) in one of the pictures.
These are still good ole tractors that can produce plenty of work and are the least complicated to maintain.
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 10:39 PM
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If she runs good and everything works as it should I'd say the $7 to $7.5K that Ray54 mentions is about right. That late a s/n has the added bonus of provision for direct electric start (I can see the cover plate for the starter hole) in one of the pictures.
These are still good ole tractors that can produce plenty of work and are the least complicated to maintain.
Hey Raklet,

I bought a 1960 D6-b cable dozer recently in Northern California. Paid $5500 for it. Those tracks have welded add on grouser bars. It's just an indicator that they have been worn down and built back up. The trunion balls on mine were shot as that one. I welded new ones on. It's a nice dozer now. Good luck.
Glen
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Mon, Sep 28, 2015 10:54 PM
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Hey Raklet,

I bought a 1960 D6-b cable dozer recently in Northern California. Paid $5500 for it. Those tracks have welded add on grouser bars. It's just an indicator that they have been worn down and built back up. The trunion balls on mine were shot as that one. I welded new ones on. It's a nice dozer now. Good luck.
Glen
If I were selling it I'd be starting above that $7K price and not let it go for anything less. I really like My D6 9U a lot.
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Tue, Sep 29, 2015 5:40 AM
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If I were selling it I'd be starting above that $7K price and not let it go for anything less. I really like My D6 9U a lot.
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I'm going to meet with the owner and have him fire it up later in the week.

Best Regards,

Tyler
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Tue, Sep 29, 2015 10:23 AM
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