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Lance Jones
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Visited a Friend a couple Days ago and He had a Set of Glow Plugs that came with His very Late D4 7U several Years ago , [42000 series ] Part no is 3T8906 , . He is thinking of Getting correct Chambers and Fitting them .They seemed to Me to be a little short in Length to what I remember of set I got for My 311 Genset . I noted OM's part no for Current Type [3H2033] any one have any Suggestions . Thanks LJ
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Fri, Feb 22, 2019 2:43 AM
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Wrong chambers...Are you sure that's not a 3T8706 glow plug number? They are 3/8" -24 tpi.
The 3H2033 glow plug is 5/16"-24 tpi.

On another note, is that chamber a decent fit? Often get a request for 12v glow plugs for the U-models which can be had in 3/8" - 24 tpi. The 3H2033 is only available in 24v.
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Fri, Feb 22, 2019 3:00 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
Wrong chambers...Are you sure that's not a 3T8706 glow plug number? They are 3/8" -24 tpi.
The 3H2033 glow plug is 5/16"-24 tpi.

On another note, is that chamber a decent fit? Often get a request for 12v glow plugs for the U-models which can be had in 3/8" - 24 tpi. The 3H2033 is only available in 24v.
I'm replacing the glow plug system on my D47U, ( due to the fact that someone before me removed all wiring ). I purchased new 3H2033 plugs, thanks Old Magnet for part #. There are no interconnection cables between the glow plugs, or wiring from the solenoid. I'm not sure what to use, or where to get connectors on the glow plugs themselves. Looks like connectors from old style spark plugs might work, but don't want to risk arcing/melting. Any help?
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 1:34 AM
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I'm replacing the glow plug system on my D47U, ( due to the fact that someone before me removed all wiring ). I purchased new 3H2033 plugs, thanks Old Magnet for part #. There are no interconnection cables between the glow plugs, or wiring from the solenoid. I'm not sure what to use, or where to get connectors on the glow plugs themselves. Looks like connectors from old style spark plugs might work, but don't want to risk arcing/melting. Any help?
You could try a glow plug lead for a 3304 engine, part#7N9634 $51.72 from Cat. Have to check the glow plug end though, may be smaller.
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 2:47 AM
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You could try a glow plug lead for a 3304 engine, part#7N9634 $51.72 from Cat. Have to check the glow plug end though, may be smaller.
can someone tell me if a glow plug will stop heating after a bit of time even though it still has 12 volts being applied!! this seems to happen on my Ford tractor
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 3:53 AM
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can someone tell me if a glow plug will stop heating after a bit of time even though it still has 12 volts being applied!! this seems to happen on my Ford tractor
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[quote="dpendzic"]can someone tell me if a glow plug will stop heating after a bit of time even though it still has 12 volts being applied!! this seems to happen on my Ford tractor
Thanks[/quote]

It can certainly burn out like any electrical heating element. Check its electrical resistance (or, using an alligator equipped jumper cord hooked to the 12V, flash the 12V to it looking for a spark (probably around 10A current)).

Daron
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 4:11 AM
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[quote="dpendzic"]can someone tell me if a glow plug will stop heating after a bit of time even though it still has 12 volts being applied!! this seems to happen on my Ford tractor
Thanks[/quote]

It can certainly burn out like any electrical heating element. Check its electrical resistance (or, using an alligator equipped jumper cord hooked to the 12V, flash the 12V to it looking for a spark (probably around 10A current)).

Daron
thanks--i should have stated that after i let them cool down for a while they heat up again when 12 volt applied
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 4:16 AM
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Reply to daron:
[quote="dpendzic"]can someone tell me if a glow plug will stop heating after a bit of time even though it still has 12 volts being applied!! this seems to happen on my Ford tractor
Thanks[/quote]

It can certainly burn out like any electrical heating element. Check its electrical resistance (or, using an alligator equipped jumper cord hooked to the 12V, flash the 12V to it looking for a spark (probably around 10A current)).

Daron
The Fords have a heat coil in the intake manifold with a small fuel supply, these are only to be held on five to ten seconds then start engine. Glow plugs can be held on up to two minutes at below freezing temps.
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I'm replacing the glow plug system on my D47U, ( due to the fact that someone before me removed all wiring ). I purchased new 3H2033 plugs, thanks Old Magnet for part #. There are no interconnection cables between the glow plugs, or wiring from the solenoid. I'm not sure what to use, or where to get connectors on the glow plugs themselves. Looks like connectors from old style spark plugs might work, but don't want to risk arcing/melting. Any help?


Original terminals used a 9F8584 sleeve and 9F8585 collet. Don't know if they are still available.
In my collection of stuff I found some brass split type spark plug terminal connectors that work. I have a feeling they may be for some early automotive application that had larger than current style posts.
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 6:02 AM
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The Fords have a heat coil in the intake manifold with a small fuel supply, these are only to be held on five to ten seconds then start engine. Glow plugs can be held on up to two minutes at below freezing temps.

That's what is on my 3cyl forklift, (thermo-start)a heat plug with a fuel line. Heat opens a fuel valve, fire heats the manifold, etc.
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Original terminals used a 9F8584 sleeve and 9F8585 collet. Don't know if they are still available.
In my collection of stuff I found some brass split type spark plug terminal connectors that work. I have a feeling they may be for some early automotive application that had larger than current style posts.
[quote="Old Magnet"]Original terminals used a 9F8584 sleeve and 9F8585 collet. Don't know if they are still available.
In my collection of stuff I found some brass split type spark plug terminal connectors that work. I have a feeling they may be for some early automotive application that had larger than current style posts.[/quote]
I checked Mag, Cat discontinued them. Figures.
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Wed, Feb 27, 2019 7:13 AM
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