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Fuel pump issues D4 6U1141

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I had a hard time starting one of my D4s yesterday. I had a stuck plunger on #1 again; freed it up and gave it some liberal spray lube. I rarely start this machine to use, WHY is the plunger sticking? Bad fuel? I ask this, as I also had other machines which I use regularly that refused to start.

This particular unit also had fuel escape after I removed the access panel. I will inspect it and look for seepage.

I do not have anything going into the crankcase. Have I lost the 2 seals for the pump/governor or? It seems to be a never ending thing here. Too many machines, so little time.

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Mon, Dec 22, 2025 3:47 PM
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Hi JM,

modern diesel fuel has less sulphur and less lubrication ability and is hard on plunger type injection pumps.

Some 4x4 forums recommend adding a dose of modern two stroke engine oil to the fuel to stop the sticking and wear.

Recommended Ratios & Amounts:

Your experience may vary.

Machines with worn plungers and barrel bores can by-pass fuel when static for a long time--check the drain tube that should drain the lifter and pump cavity of the fuel injection pump. On D2/4's there are 2 or 3 tubes down below the injection pump filter tower at about the same level as the sump/crankcase parting line that mud daubers love to clog up.

Cheers,

Eddie B.

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Tue, Dec 23, 2025 1:41 AM
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Thank you Eddie B., I will take a look today while I am close by. What is your thought regarding the use of ATF, Marvel's Mystery Oil besides 2 stroke oil? This one for sure has not been started in over 6 months, and honestly never ever noticed anything come from the weep tubes, so there is a good chance they could be plugged up. I might have to swap the ditcher attachment for the toolbar blade, so I can spread some crushed rock here. Good excuse to stretch its legs.

I really appreciate your wisdom. Thank you again, JM.

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Tue, Dec 23, 2025 2:44 PM
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Hi JM,

ATF will both lubricate and eat rust, we do not get Marvel Mystery Oil down here so I have no experience of this product.

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Eddie B.

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Wed, Dec 24, 2025 1:02 AM
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Hi, JM.

One 'trick' that I have used for a LONG time is to add the 2-stroke oil into the tank BEFORE filling the tank. If the tank hazza dipstick, 'kalkillate' the amount of 2-stroke oil that you need for the amount of fuel that you will be putting into it, add the 2-stroke oil and then let the incoming fuel do the mixing for you.

Many, MANY moons ago, back in 1971, I discovered that Australian BP pre-mixed 2-stroke fuel was the ONLY one on the market at that time in which the 2-stroke oil would not separate from the gasoline in the mix if left standing for a while - dunno if the same still applies.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wed, Dec 24, 2025 3:39 AM
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they don't make zoom any more. that went out in the early 90s/late 80s. i can just remember servos having the bowsers for it. you can still get sthil motomix though pre mixed premium unleaded at 50 to 1 ratio.

what we use is flash-lube diesel conditioner 50ml to 50 litres. works well adds that lubricity back and has a slight cleaning effect too.

we also use flash-lube valve saver for our old petrol engines too since modern fuel is unleaded.

"i reject your reality and substitute my own" - adam savage. i suspect my final words maybe "well shit, that didnt work"

instead of perfection some times we just have to accept practicality

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